Delta MD88 ground evac today in ATL

[aa73]

one of my DL buds was right behind him, says his engine caught on fire, evacuated right there by 9L. Glad everyone got out OK and no injuries, kudos to DL crews.

73

 

[Tanker Clown]

Oh Lord, what did those Delta guys screw up this time? Did they at least land on a runway?

I really wish they would shut off thier laptops and focus more on landing on runways and safety in general.

 

[Kharma Police]

Real Class A-hole!!!

Yeah, maybe somebody could fly into a hailstorm, or bail out some people on the runway while the plane burns up or even ship some oxygen generators again to take the heat off these guys too...

Save your anti-Delta BS for your cockpit pals......

I'm glad no one was hurt.

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/Engine+Fire+Grounds+Delta+Plane+in+Atlanta+110709

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Great job by the crew.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Oh Lord, what did those Delta guys screw up this time? Did they at least land on a runway?

I really wish they would shut off thier laptops and focus more on landing on runways and safety in general.

Or maybe they could go back to sodomizing their superior officer like you, and pretending to tell everyone you meet in the malls that you're an Air Force pilot, when in reality, the only thing you're flying is your man's meat stick!
Save your breath, tanker clown, you'll need it later for your inflatable date!

 

[Ed Harley]

Great job by the crew.

Really? Very few reasons necessitate an evacuation where you increase the risk of passenger and crew injury. Not sure why they couldn't just blow the bottles or shut the engine down and have ARFF inspect. We'll see what the investigation reveals but I'll bet that the crew got anxious and called for an evacuation prematurely.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Really? Very few reasons necessitate an evacuation where you increase the risk of passenger and crew injury. Not sure why they couldn't just blow the bottles or shut the engine down and have ARFF inspect. We'll see what the investigation reveals but I'll bet that the crew got anxious and called for an evacuation prematurely.

You were not there, and the fact is none of us were. They made a decision based on the information they have. It is not correct to Monday Morning Quarterback a decision made in seconds.

It had a successful outcome, and that is that. It is like questioning Sully and his crew.

 

[Tanker Clown]

ACL, did the crew of the Delta jet that landed on a taxiway do a great job? I mean, other than landing on a taxiway, I bet it was a great job.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

ACL, did the crew of the Delta jet that landed on a taxiway do a great job? I mean, other than landing on a taxiway, I bet it was a great job.

You are not worth of a response. Really? Compare the two. Let both investigations show what happened.

 

[RedRum]

Really? Very few reasons necessitate an evacuation where you increase the risk of passenger and crew injury. Not sure why they couldn't just blow the bottles or shut the engine down and have ARFF inspect. We'll see what the investigation reveals but I'll bet that the crew got anxious and called for an evacuation prematurely.

Blow the bottles...really? You put that much faith in those things actually putting out a fire? How do you know that they didn't blow the bottles and they weren't successful in extinguishing the fire? Do you really think they didn't shut down the engine and then blow the bottle? Do you really think they didn't ask the FA and/or the control tower to verify they had a fire ON the aircraft before evacuating?

Are you really an airline pilot? DC9, A320? I highly doubt it with a response like that. I guess it is Monday morning so I will give you a pass on that one, but why the flame? If you are an airline pilot you know better than that and I certainly hope you don't expect the same treatment from your peers when your aircraft, or should I say Microsoft Flight Simulator airplane, catches on fire!

Go grab your joystick and get back to work.

 

[Tanker Clown]

ACL, I guess we should all be happy that your guys were listening to the radio this time. Hope maintaining the safety of the aircraft doesn't get in the way of you guys watching movies on your lap tops.

 

[ultrarunner]

Really? Very few reasons necessitate an evacuation where you increase the risk of passenger and crew injury. Not sure why they couldn't just blow the bottles or shut the engine down and have ARFF inspect. We'll see what the investigation reveals but I'll bet that the crew got anxious and called for an evacuation prematurely.

SOP's maybe?

 

[jdubya]

Good job end of story.

The lack of skills/professionalism/common sense in this business (these boards) amaze me.

 

[scarlet]

Taxi Way landing= they all were putting their double breasted coats on (1980)...

I have yet to see how in VFR at 1000,500,300 feet you would mistake M for a runway. Maybe looking outside would help, and stop dicking with the autopilot to make the turns, if given a different runway at the last minute.

DL= Best pilots in the world. They operate the autopilot the best too. Atl Tower can we get windcheck, and is Mike available?

 

[Ed Harley]

Blow the bottles...really? You put that much faith in those things actually putting out a fire? How do you know that they didn't blow the bottles and they weren't successful in extinguishing the fire? Do you really think they didn't shut down the engine and then blow the bottle? Do you really think they didn't ask the FA and/or the control tower to verify they had a fire ON the aircraft before evacuating?

Are you really an airline pilot? DC9, A320? I highly doubt it with a response like that. I guess it is Monday morning so I will give you a pass on that one, but why the flame? If you are an airline pilot you know better than that and I certainly hope you don't expect the same treatment from your peers when your aircraft, or should I say Microsoft Flight Simulator airplane, catches on fire!

Go grab your joystick and get back to work.

Not flaming, just don't like it when people on here are quick to say the crew did a good job. I'm not necessarily saying the crew screwed up either, but my understanding of this is that the fire occured while starting the second engine during taxi. I know the DC9 very well and know that the majority of these fires are tailpipe fires or torching. Possibly didn't have the ignition on. Possibly the crew just needed to motor the engine to put it out.

I agree though, lets let the investigators do their job. I do know that at NW, we put a big emphasis on not evacuating - especially on engine fires.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Well, I guess it just goes to show, you get what you pay for with pilots. When I go watch minor league baseball, I'm not expecting to see the Yankees. I guess Delta guys stopped taking this profession seriously when they started getting minor league money. Maybe if they made Southwest type of money, they'd be more likely to land on runways.

 

[aa73]

Tanker clown,

just curious, why all the hate directed at DL crews? did they slight you at some point in the past?

i have a few very good friends at DL and it seems like a class act pilot group.

so what gives?
73

 

[Tanker Clown]

I think they lack a professional mentality. It seems like 10 years ago, they were a fine group. But now, they always seem to be missing the attention to detail that would break error chains that they build for themselves. I'm not sure I'm 100% confident with my family in the back of one of their jets as their pilots are consumed on their laptops trying to eke out an extra dollar or two on Deltas scheduling system, that they'll be focused enough to line up on a runway vs. a taxiway.

 

[ultrarunner]

I'm not sure I'm 100% confident with my family in the back of one of their jets as their pilots are consumed on their laptops trying to eke out an extra dollar or two on Deltas scheduling system, that they'll be focused enough to line up on a runway vs. a taxiway.

They're TONS safer than sticking them in the back of some RJ crewed by the spikey-hair iPod crew, I can tell you that!

 

[Tanker Clown]

You are probably right, but it seems like the last time I bought a ticket on Delta I ended up on some sort of RJ anyway. It was painted like a Delta jet, so I assume they represent Delta.

 

[ultrarunner]

You are probably right, but it seems like the last time I bought a ticket on Delta I ended up on some sort of RJ anyway. It was painted like a Delta jet, so I assume they represent Delta.

They represent the Delta brand, and that's it!

You can easily see when you book online if you're on a connection carrier or not. Depending upon what market you live it, it's relatively easy to book around the RJ's. And hopefully it will get easier as more are taken out of service.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I think they lack a professional mentality. It seems like 10 years ago, they were a fine group. But now, they always seem to be missing the attention to detail that would break error chains that they build for themselves. I'm not sure I'm 100% confident with my family in the back of one of their jets as their pilots are consumed on their laptops trying to eke out an extra dollar or two on Deltas scheduling system, that they'll be focused enough to line up on a runway vs. a taxiway.

Someone married you? Wow!

 

[Tanker Clown]

They represent the Delta brand, and that's it!

You can easily see when you book online if you're on a connection carrier or not. Depending upon what market you live it, it's relatively easy to book around the RJ's. And hopefully it will get easier as more are taken out of service.

Delta.com. What's the difference in pilots? I figure a RJ capt makes pretty much what a Delta guy makes (after they gave their pay away).

Besides, how much worse can these RJ guys be? As long as they land on a runway, I'm sure Delta would be proud to have them display the Delta logo.

And I got a news flash for you guys. When a average customer flys an RJ that is painted up in Delta, UAL, ect colors, they think that's the airline that they are on. If you ask someone flying on Midwest now what airline they are on, they'll say "Midwest." They have never heard of Republic.

 

[KCPilot]

Just do this...

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[aa73]

Wow. All I can say is, I've jumpseated in DL cockpits and am impressed with the quality of their operation. In fact I've used their procedures as suggestions to my own (AA) flight department in improving our operation.

Bottom line, I would put my family in the back of a Delta jet an day. Sure they've screwed up here and there but who hasn't?

Sounds like they did something to tick you off.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Only thing they've done to tick me off is to roll over and take it in the can on pay concessions. I want a good paying job when I leave the military. Delta seems to be one of the leaders to the bottom. That's why I'm not sure why any Delta guy would give an RJ guy a hard time. Both are willing to work for nothing.

 

[GogglesPisano]

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[PeanuckleCRJ]

Only thing they've done to tick me off is to roll over and take it in the can on pay concessions. I want a good paying job when I leave the military. Delta seems to be one of the leaders to the bottom. That's why I'm not sure why any Delta guy would give an RJ guy a hard time. Both are willing to work for nothing.

Just for poops and giggles- can you name a legacy/top end carrier that didn't take paycuts over the last decade?

UPS and FDX didn't, and WN didn't... but you jump all over the WN guys in a similar manner to the DL guys.

 

[aa73]

Wait a second Tanker, why do you presume DL took the worst concessions? Last I checked, CAL and UAL have WAAAY worse contracts than DL. In fact I'd say that - SADLY ENOUGH - DL and AMR have one of the better contracts as far as legacies go.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Seriously??

Why is anyone even debating with this waste of a good skin graft named Tanker??

He hasn't had a rational thing to say on this board yet, so why should he start?