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Who's heard this on day one of a trip and said to themselves "Oh boy, here we go". I gotta tell ya Captains - those are words an FO cringes at hearing. Maybe some of you captains remember feeling that way too.

9 times out of 10 when us gear bizatches hear that, after leg #2 we got a laundry list of dirt you guys do or don't do that is not SOP. For what it's worth, saying that you are "standard" goes without saying! We all expect each other to live up to our employers rules and procedures when we show up to work. Bringing attention to it is not necessary. So please stop coming into the cockpit with your nuances and pet peeves, and we can all get thru a trip a little easier.

If I ever utter the "Standard" word after upgrading (god help us who are waiting).......shoot me.
 
Never minded hearing those words as an FO. Just meant that I could pretty much expect him to fly the way the training department taught both of us. Even minor deviations from that were really no big deal to me.

You know what the best thing about upgrading to Captain is? Not having to fly with A-hole Captains anymore, because you're the A-hole now.
 
"I follow the checklist"
 
Who really cares? 99% of the pilots out there aren't standard in some fashion. As long as the job gets done, why complain? That's unless you're the Chief Pilot/Management/Training Department type. Hell, I've even flown with IOE Captains who aren't standard outside of IOE training.
Are you one of those people who can't accept that the same results can be accomplished 1,000 different ways? Or does it have to be done 1 way and way only?
Maybe you're the one that needs to have a beer once in a while and lighten up. Quit taking this job so damn seriously.
So please stop coming into the cockpit with your nuances and pet peeves, and we can all get thru a trip a little easier.
You're the one that has the problem with it. If you're that upset by it, call sick and then call pro-standards or a Chief Pilot and vent your frustration. But in the end, you'll get the same answer from them all. "You're the FO. Shut your hole!".
It sounds like you're a real joy to fly with if this is ruining multi day trips for you. You losing sleep over this?
 
Who really cares? 99% of the pilots out there aren't standard in some fashion. As long as the job gets done, why complain? That's unless you're the Chief Pilot/Management/Training Department type. Hell, I've even flown with IOE Captains who aren't standard outside of IOE training.
Are you one of those people who can't accept that the same results can be accomplished 1,000 different ways? Or does it have to be done 1 way and way only?
Maybe you're the one that needs to have a beer once in a while and lighten up. Quit taking this job so damn seriously.
You're the one that has the problem with it. If you're that upset by it, call sick and then call pro-standards or a Chief Pilot and vent your frustration. But in the end, you'll get the same answer from them all. "You're the FO. Shut your hole!".
It sounds like you're a real joy to fly with if this is ruining multi day trips for you. You losing sleep over this?

I find it annoying when someone is really non-standard just because I don't know what they expect, but as long as they aren't trying to kill me, it doesn't really matter. Some people get pissed if you start a flow before they call for it, and some get pissed if you wait for them to call for it. So, I just ask, "Do you want me to wait for the checklist to be called, or not," before the first leg with a new captain.

Being proactive seems to solve a lot of the problems. Just relax, and learn how to mold to what the captain wants. Someday, you'll be pissing off FOs yourself... :)
 
I find it annoying when someone is really non-standard just because I don't know what they expect, but as long as they aren't trying to kill me, it doesn't really matter. Some people get pissed if you start a flow before they call for it, and some get pissed if you wait for them to call for it. So, I just ask, "Do you want me to wait for the checklist to be called, or not," before the first leg with a new captain.

Being proactive seems to solve a lot of the problems. Just relax, and learn how to mold to what the captain wants. Someday, you'll be pissing off FOs yourself... :)
Exactly.
FO's need to be sharp marbles seeing that they're the low man on the totum pole, and no matter how much that captain pisses you off, for what ever reason, the FO has to learn to deal with it.
 
This goes along with, "Hi, I'm easy going." When I here that I cringe and prepare myself for a long trip.
 
Some of the worst pilots you'll ever fly with are the most standard.
This couldn't be more true.
I will never forget this guy. He was a check airman, and an anal one at that. He tried to be perfectly standard and by the book to the point where he would miss the little things because he was too busy double checking everything (taxi checklists, atis....YES ATIS!) that he would mess up.
He messed up and messed up a lot. Taxing the plane was his biggest issue. He would move his finger along on the chart while the plane was in movement. The problem was he couldn't watch his finger and the taxiway.
In HOU he damn near pulled onto an active runway thinking it was a taxiway. I tried telling him 3 times that he turned the wrong way, finally locking the brakes up on him. We had a brief discussion.
As long as you have fuel, programmed the FMS, configured the airplane to take off and don't blow an altitude...everything else can be fixed without the FAA knowing.
 

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