AA Super 80 vs LUV...Double standard?

[CaptWidgeon]

The type requirement at SWA does not save the company anything with regards to one's initial training.

actually i think it does. since we come to class with a type the training schedule is more of an accelerated refresher if you will. i don't remember for sure but i think training was about 6 weeks. i thought i heard that training at AA (and i'm only using them because that's where the last person hired at a major went, that i knew personally, can recall) was something like 3 months. same thing with capt upgrade.

and maybe a swa capt can chime in, how long is capt upgrade? i would think it would be quicker than if someone came in without a type already. just guessing on that one.

 

[Quimby]

Personally, I wouldn't walk across the concourse to fly a B737 after flying the MD80.

The 80 is so sleek and streamlined, while the 737 taxi's out wobbling from side to side with that stupid trim wheel rubbing your knees. Manual reversion isn't complicated on the MD80. The 737 is barely maneuverable and almost non air-worthy when there's a hydraulic problem.

The MD80 is symbolically phallic, and is a work of art on takeoff when silouetted against an evening sky.

The 737...well...there's just too much FLUF.

The B727 however,....

Are you serious? The MD-80?

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[PreContact]

737 type rating doesn't equal getting hired at SW. Personally, I think it's just a way for SW to generate more revenue (per their partnership with Hire Power). Most folks go there for their type ratings.

 

[njcapt]

Are you serious? The MD-80?

Whatever floats your boat.

Heh, heh. Yeah, I guess opinions really ARE like a$$holes. I have just under 1000 PIC in the MD-80 and if somebody held a gun to my head and insisted that I say something positive about it, I'd have to admit it was QUIET up front. Unfortunately, that came a result of almost zero air conditioning in the aquarium.

 

[rajflyboy]

There is no requirement to buy a 737 type rating to apply or to be hired at SWA.

The only requirement is that one have a 737 type rating.

I am one of many who did not buy a 737 type rating, and still got hired.

I understand this. And that would be the best way to get into SWA. Have someone else pay for the type!

I mean heck >> I think you guys only hire about 1 out of 5 you interview. Thats a lot of waisted money for 80% of the people who don't make the cut.

 

[rajflyboy]

737 type rating doesn't equal getting hired at SW. Personally, I think it's just a way for SW to generate more revenue (per their partnership with Hire Power). Most folks go there for their type ratings.

Thumbs Up ! Could be some truth to this!

 

[rajflyboy]

AMR Doesn't require that a person has a Type Rating?

Now why is that???

 

[HDA]

I never will work for SWA or any other airline. I always stand up for the under dog. Right now SWA is the under dog because they are bashing them over this little problem. Does any body really think they should be grounded? Just think if the FAA grounded all aircraft that had a minor problem. So, my story is I will defend you if they start bashing you.

Yeah right. Go back and look at some of your rediculous posts on the SWA-F9 fiasco. You are a douch. Or maybe you felt that SWA was the underdog in the whole deal?

 

[helavapilot]

So,
1) we all agree that there IS a double standard.
2) You can only love SWA if you work there or if you want to work there and have not been dinged?

 

[Tejas-Jet]

737 type rating doesn't equal getting hired at SW. Personally, I think it's just a way for SW to generate more revenue (per their partnership with Hire Power).

I can assure you that there is no revenue gained from any perceived "partnership" with Higher Power. Higher Power has asked SWA to show up at some of their functions. SWA has accepted the invitation. That is the extent of the "partnership".

BTW...SWA people also go and speak at other type rating schools.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Thats a lot of waisted money for 80% of the people who don't make the cut.

We all have choices. Those who didn't make the cut made a choice...as did those who did make the cut.

For some...that choice worked out....for others, it didn't.....thats how it goes sometimes.

 

[redflyer65]

Back to the subject...

How does the "non-grounding" of the A330 by Delta and USair fit into your argument that SWA gets prefered treatment some how?

Those carriers have roughly the same time frame to change out their pitot tubes.

I don't see the double standard. Sorry.

 

[RedDogC130]

So,
1) we all agree that there IS a double standard.
2) You can only love SWA if you work there or if you want to work there and have not been dinged?

Well I got dinged once and I had my app in for 4 years before I got my first interview. I kept my stuff updated and bingo got a 2nd interview an got the job....so cry me a river. Keep trying and if it is meant to be it will happen...maybe "you" (not meant directly to helavapilot) but everyone just do not fit what the company is looking for...that is life....Everyone here (at SWA) exibits some similar caracteristics in personality...sure some slip though (some would say me) and you sure can notice them....but most have fairly close personality traits....maybe they like that and that is their baseline in an interivew..... they seem to produce the same people who get the job....

 

[IAHERJ]

Personally, I wouldn't walk across the concourse to fly a B737 after flying the MD80.

The 80 is so sleek and streamlined, while the 737 taxi's out wobbling from side to side with that stupid trim wheel rubbing your knees. Manual reversion isn't complicated on the MD80. The 737 is barely maneuverable and almost non air-worthy when there's a hydraulic problem.

The MD80 is symbolically phallic, and is a work of art on takeoff when silouetted against an evening sky.

The 737...well...there's just too much FLUF.

The B727 however,....

Now here is someone I can relate to. Totally agree. Having flown almost every version of the fluf, and having flown the B717, I'd take the 717 anyday(except my company pays a lot better to fly the 737-800/900 than any 717 job out there). The MD-80 would be my choice over any 737 model if my airline still had them around. I'd even take the hot Summer cockpit over the 737. Quiet workplace, more elbow room, better looking aircraft, and more confidence in the Douglass than the Boeing(737) when the crap hits the fan.

IAHERJ