PDT Crews and CrewTrac Web- some facts.

[Sig]

The ministry of disinformation would have us believe that CrewTrac Web is "financially undoable." To a reasonable person, the implication is that it is too expensive to acquire.

Since our management team (hello, guys!) loves to separate "facts" from "truth," here are some more "facts."

The equipment, the license and the background wherewithalls were purchased by SSO for both PSA and PDT. We own it.

PSA went live and handed management their wrinkly arses via the grievance process.

PDT management asked for a moratorium on our SBA in order to make it go "live." The union kindly asked them to pound sand rather than give up your rights under the contract- to see how they break the contract.

The financial burden PDT refuses to carry is the increased cost of doing business in their insipid, devious and pathetic daily way in the form of massive grievances, NOT the purchase of the product.

Here's the rub: It is another admission of guilt and failure to withhold the product from the crews. What are they hiding? Why would they hide the scheduling supervisor in a room during a DOD audit? Why wouldn't they just play nice and follow FARs and the contract? Why would they waste the money on licensing and computer equipment that is gathering dust in SBY HQ?

Why not? Because it is financially undoable. That, folks, is the difference between fact and truth.

 

[sucit]

What is your source? I am so sick of this mgt. At what point do we say enough is enough. What can we do?? This place is going down anyway we might as well go down swinging with everything we have!

 

[Metro752]

Did you guys get the EFBs in your planes yet?

 

[OPECJet]

What is your source? I am so sick of this mgt. At what point do we say enough is enough. What can we do?? This place is going down anyway we might as well go down swinging with everything we have!

If Sig is posting something about scheduling, you can look at it as fact. This is one of the few guys on FI, or anywhere else for that matter that doesn't open mouth before engaging brain.

As far as enough being enough, it was enough for me back in '05.

 

[NCFlyer]

Did you guys get the EFBs in your planes yet?

Not yet, they say it will be at least the middle of 2010 before we see any EFB's.

Typical of this place. The chief pilot was in our CQ class in Aug 2008 and told the class about the coming EFB's.

 

[Sig]

What is your source? I am so sick of this mgt. At what point do we say enough is enough. What can we do??

We can't "do" anything now that we couldn't "do" before. But access to information is zero. The contract doesn't allow pilots to see what are termed Actuals. It is an after-the-fact look back at what CrewTrac Web would allow looking forward.

For example- when open flying outpaces reserve availability, junior mans are planned. Not the day before, but the month before. Yes, some JRM have to occur as a pop up trip due to a sick call or out of place crew, but yes- JRMs are mapped just like RSV days. How? RSVs are assigned open flying with the bid finals, wayyyyy beyond the open flying provisions for pickup. If we were to see this, every person available for the open flying that could have gotten it would win the grievance and get paid for not doing it.

That's how fouled up this company is! It is very hard to do, but I've done the following: I was put into a strange overnight on a modified pairing that "just came up" with a short call out that morning. My hotel reservation was made in my name a few days prior! It won't work with regularly assigned RONs- you are just taking a blocked crew room PDT reserved with the bid package.

This place is going down anyway we might as well go down swinging with everything we have!

Pay very close attention to your rights when being force moved, and our Section 21 is probably the very best in the entire industry. Grieve it.

 

[sucit]

did anyone hear what happened at the town hall today?

 

[Sig]

did anyone hear what happened at the town hall today?

Not a whole lot- they were surprised that the pilots knew about it, which IMHO is fantastic.

The things that were rehashed were the obvious- just read the press release in SF's voice. There WAS a single question that smoked SF in his shoes. It isn't relevant, but his answer was completely flagged BS by a printed letter addressed to him... another thing they were surprised the pilots knew about.

Again, it wasn't relevant (details about the hierarchy in express mgt), but to dropkick him with a printed letter was priceless.

 

[DC8Driver]

Not a whole lot- they were surprised that the pilots knew about it, which IMHO is fantastic.

The things that were rehashed were the obvious- just read the press release in SF's voice. There WAS a single question that smoked SF in his shoes. It isn't relevant, but his answer was completely flagged BS by a printed letter addressed to him... another thing they were surprised the pilots knew about.

Again, it wasn't relevant (details about the hierarchy in express mgt), but to dropkick him with a printed letter was priceless.

Great Idea. "Drop kick" your leaders. When they sit around trying to decided wheather to keep PDT as an airline or just make it a ground handling company, they will remember your drop kicking.
Instead of being glad you have a job or working constructively with your company, get on here and bitch.

Where are you going to go next? Think about it.

Good luck to you and yours.

 

[FMEpilot]

Let me make it very clear...BECAUSE OUR LEADERS MADE IT VERY CLEAR...'THEY DO NOT CONTROL THE FUTURE OF PDT.'

 

[kf4amu]

Instead of being glad you have a job or working constructively with your company, get on here and bitch.

Piedmont management has a long history of refusing to work constructively with their pilots. On many issues. This is one.

However, we don't run the APU, we single engine taxi to save fuel and what do we get out of it? 20 percent fleet reduction, furloughs, and hostile management who wants us to take contract concessions.

 

[DC8Driver]

Piedmont management has a long history of refusing to work constructively with their pilots. On many issues. This is one.

However, we don't run the APU, we single engine taxi to save fuel and what do we get out of it? 20 percent fleet reduction, furloughs, and hostile management who wants us to take contract concessions.

Hostile goes both ways. Contract concessions? No fooling? Anyone tell you Airways is going broke?

Go get another job! No where to go? Better work with your company to save every penny you can. Single engine taxi isn't some sort of optional operating program. You need to fly the airplanes they way you are told to by the company. Grow up!

 

[Sig]

Instead of being glad you have a job or working constructively with your company, get on here and bitch.

"Working constructively" and "PDT management" are as diametrically opposed as possible, unlike putting information out there vice bitching. When you've been lied to your face several times after a reasonable attempt at constructively working, how would you feel about the next attempt? Optimistic? That would be either following the disgraced values of the company man, or just plain stupid.

Where are you going to go next? Think about it.

Think, or daydream?

Good luck to you and yours.

Fortes fortuna adiuvat

 

[quinnlake]

I have no problem with working constructively with my company. It is getting harder to working cohesively. I just don't trust management. To many times, I've been lied to. From the day I was hired-- upgrade will be less than two years, Q400's are just around the corner, we have a flow through to mainline-- to Doug Parker saying he wants to keep the DASH 8's, we're going to grow the wholly owened companies, - etc- at some point you have to feel stupid to except the company line.

Still-- I want contribute positively to the success of my company, in spite of the poor efforts and lack of vision of our management.

 

[DC8Driver]

I have no problem with working constructively with my company. It is getting harder to working cohesively. I just don't trust management. To many times, I've been lied to. From the day I was hired-- upgrade will be less than two years, Q400's are just around the corner, we have a flow through to mainline-- to Doug Parker saying he wants to keep the DASH 8's, we're going to grow the wholly owened companies, - etc- at some point you have to feel stupid to except the company line.

Still-- I want contribute positively to the success of my company, in spite of the poor efforts and lack of vision of our management.

No management person promised you an upgrade in two years.

Q400's were right around the corner until the economy tanked. They are conserving cash. You get the reason why don't you?

They wanted to keep the DASH 8's but the leases came up and the rates went through the roof. They are not economically a smart move now.

Flow through? Talk to your union.

At some point you have to understand that airlines are a business and must at some point make a profit. They are not here so you and I have an airplane to fly on the days I want to go to work.

 

[zasca]

Jeez, is someone channeling DJ or what?!?

 

[kf4amu]

Hostile goes both ways. Contract concessions? No fooling? Anyone tell you Airways is going broke?

How is the pilot group being hostile? Nobody at PDT is doing anything to the company other than what they want. And yes, we are already under a concessionary contract from the last go-round and they want more. I'm not interested in saving jobs, I'm interested in getting paid the most we can. Pilots are too eager to suffer for our art.

Go get another job! No where to go?

I got plenty of options, and unfortunately I'm pursuing them now. I didn't want to, but there is no light at the end of the tunnel and I don't really have a choice. I don't mind saving the company money but don't expect me to do things outside my scope of practice to save money then ask me to give up pay. "For the good of the company" is not my incentive. I don't care about the investors. Extra pay is the only thing that motivates me.

You need to fly the airplanes they way you are told to by the company. Grow up!

Certainly, but when there are subjective decisions to be made, I will always err on my side.

 

[DC8Driver]

How is the pilot group being hostile? Nobody at PDT is doing anything to the company other than what they want. And yes, we are already under a concessionary contract from the last go-round and they want more. I'm not interested in saving jobs, I'm interested in getting paid the most we can. Pilots are too eager to suffer for our art.



I got plenty of options, and unfortunately I'm pursuing them now. I didn't want to, but there is no light at the end of the tunnel and I don't really have a choice. I don't mind saving the company money but don't expect me to do things outside my scope of practice to save money then ask me to give up pay. "For the good of the company" is not my incentive. I don't care about the investors. Extra pay is the only thing that motivates me.




Certainly, but when there are subjective decisions to be made, I will always err on my side.

Your a wonderful employee I'm sure LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Hostile? I think that covers it.......LOLOLOLOL This industry is full of pilots just like yourself.

You should be proud!

 

[Sig]

They wanted to keep the DASH 8's but the leases came up and the rates went through the roof. They are not economically a smart move now.

Much like the lies you told us about CrewTrac Web?

Flow through? Talk to your union.

You pay dues too, dontcha? You even have a slot on our list, right? But when you crawl under a desk and "pray" for another promotion, yes- it is not YOUR union at all.

They are not here so you and I have an airplane to fly on the days I want to go to work.

Hmm. You're either PDT MGT or F&H propagandist slime. Either way, we'll leave the light on for ya.

 

[kf4amu]

Your a wonderful employee I'm sure LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Hostile? I think that covers it.......LOLOLOLOL This industry is full of pilots just like yourself.

You should be proud!

I'm proud of being one of the few pilots who doesn't think its right to subsidize fares with my paycheck.