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On demand and 135 guys have been doing this for DECADES, and they haven't been falling out of the skies like regionals have been lately. I can see it now, the regional pilots are going to use the "fatigue card" to try and screw their airlines operations up and therefore, screw the very people that support their livelihood.

Yeah thats it. We are out to screw companies. Retard
 
God you Colgan guys are lame, no duty limit in your contract? Is there even a contract?
This is what you get when you vote ALPA on the property.
You might have ALPO, but life will get worse at Colgan, before it's no more.
 
18 hour duty days are VERY common here in the non sked world... Get used to it.




"It could be worse" or "I have it worse than you...get used to it" is not a valid argument.

This is the attitude that erodes this industry and plays right into managements hand
 
Hi!

I know a -135 operator that crashed TWO jets on the SAME DAY! Almost nothing was heard about it in the media.

cliff
NBO
 
On demand and 135 guys have been doing this for DECADES, and they haven't been falling out of the skies like regionals have been lately. I can see it now, the regional pilots are going to use the "fatigue card" to try and screw their airlines operations up and therefore, screw the very people that support their livelihood.

You're a friggin troll!
 
Hi!

I know a -135 operator that crashed TWO jets on the SAME DAY! Almost nothing was heard about it in the media.

cliff
NBO

yeah and both were pilot error.....that was crap operation too, they changed their name though...so it must all be better now.
 
Regardless of circumstances in the scheduled domestic 121 world, if you are on duty for a minute more than 16 hours, you are wrong.

121.471b says:
(b) Except as provided in paragraph (c) of this section, no certificate holder conducting domestic operations may schedule a flight crewmember and no flight crewmember may accept an assignment for flight time during the 24 consecutive hours preceding the scheduled completion of any flight segment without a scheduled rest period during that 24 hours of at least the following:
Then it goes on to outline the normal rest of 9-11 hours dependent on flight time.

the exception in c says:
(c) A certificate holder may schedule a flight crewmember for less than the rest required in paragraph (b) of this section or may reduce a scheduled rest under the following conditions:
Then it goes on to outline reduced rest of 8-9 hours dependent on flight time.

Note that there is no case that allows flight with less than 8 hours rest in the last 24 hours making a de facto duty limit of 16 hours.
 
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FWIW I am 99% sure that this is a proprietary memo. What that means is you can get in deep deep do do for having it up here. Just a word of caution.
Like most companies I am sure it is copyright protected et al.

Someone ought to be handing out copies of this memo to the people in line at Continental ticket counters nationwide.
 

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