Frontier Airlines becomes Wholly Owned subsidary of Republic

[flynryan15]

The only saving grace is the article unless a better offer surfaces. Can Jet Blue make a play?

 

[ATRCA]

I'm not in the least bit concerned that RAH is going to become some kind of powerhouse in the industry. We're talking about an RJ operator latching on to a very small and hardly profitable National airline. The new airline will face tremendous competition and if RAH were to in fact lose code share contracts they would be hard pressed to finance their new "Major" airline for long.

This is positioning, nothing else. A small Bus operator in DEN is hardly going to produce a "game changer" if you will.

 

[lowlycfi]

Where are they going to fly them to? Does Republic know anything about marketing an airline? What about selling tickets?

Probably about as much as ACA/Independence and ExpressJet did, and those didn't work out to great.

By the way, I like the quote from Gen. McAuliffe.

 

[flynryan15]

I'm not in the least bit concerned that RAH is going to become some kind of powerhouse in the industry. We're talking about an RJ operator latching on to a very small and hardly profitable National airline. The new airline will face tremendous competition and if RAH were to in fact lose code share contracts they would be hard pressed to finance their new "Major" airline for long.

This is positioning, nothing else. A small Bus operator in DEN is hardly going to produce a "game changer" if you will.

Hope you are right!

 

[Headfake14]

Regarding a play by Jetblue. I haven't heard anything around the playgrounds here about us aquiring or buying into another carrier. Doesn't mean it hasn't been talked about during 'skunk works' meetings. But I don't see it happening right now.

We are getting ready to dig in with SWA in BWI and we're still at it with VX in JFK and IAD.

 

[jmreii]

I might be a conspiracy theory nut case, but what is to stop Republic from adding something like a A330? Then shifting all Ejets to their own airline, and almost overnight becoming a stand alone airline.

Money talks, everything else walks!

 

[ATRCA]

Hope you are right!

What if I'm wrong? What will that mean? Even if Frontier successfully emerges from BK with RAH supplying the cash what exactly should the rest of us take issue with? I'm just not all that afraid of RAH and the Reverend. Why is everyone else so enamored with this. So they own a small Airbus operator? What's the problem?

 

[flynryan15]

What if I'm wrong? What will that mean? Even if Frontier successfully emerges from BK with RAH supplying the cash what exactly should the rest of us take issue with? I'm just not all that afraid of RAH and the Reverend. Why is everyone else so enamored with this. So they own a small Airbus operator? What's the problem?

The problem could be them combining the small Airbus operator with their Ejets. Overnight they have a 200 plus aircraft airline with labor cost that would bring a tear to Frank Lorenzo's eye!

 

[ATRCA]

The problem could be them combining the small Airbus operator with their Ejets. Overnight they have a 200 plus aircraft airline with labor cost that would bring a tear to Frank Lorenzo's eye!

Perhaps but they have no market share. They have no stand alone route structure. They have no infrastructure to support a massive successful "start up" National airline. It takes a lot more than equipment to sustain a major stand alone airline operation. In order to do this, RAH would need to cut itself off from it's only revenue stream which is contract feed. Are you suggesting they will simply cease providing contract feed and over night start this "big" new airline. I just don't see it. Even if they did, the track record for such operations is hardly something to lose sleep over.

 

[aewanabe]

And why exactly should the RP pilots give a crap or "hold their heads lower than a Mesa pilot" because of the Reverend's actions again?

PS all you kiddies with CL65 in your profile ranting about E-Jets killing the mainline are hilarious. Especially those who fly the -700 or -900.