RE; Whatever Happened to My "FBI Profile of B19" Post? Revisted AGAIN

[waka]

Probably because this is an Aviation forum, not a place for teenages to call each other gay or stupid - like the level of what some have been doing to B19 Flyer. Those threads aren't relevant, so they're removed. If you guys just debate your opinions on aviation unions with him and not attack personally, then your thread may stay. This is why things are moderated.

Try re-reading the posting rules.

Listen to the B19 c o c k s u c k e r/apologist! B19 has used ad hominems in plenty of his posts.

Get a spine!

 

[skanza]

whoa dude.

Listen to the B19 c o c k s u c k e r/apologist! B19 has used ad hominems in plenty of his posts.

Get a spine!

Get a spine? Really?
Perhaps you didn't read my post. Rather you just responded with your sock-cucker, fother-mucker comments simply because its me.
Please read again, for I am only answering why these non-relevant threads have been removed.
The closed mindedness here is amazing...

 

[wacoflyr]

Skanza, I understand the desire to rise above vulgar language, but give me a break. B19 has called me an a$$, which I think you can translate, and many others here much worse. You are defending one of the major sources of low speech on this forum. His hysterical rants have lowered the anti-union, pro-union debate to a level that is incomprehensible. I mean, do you really want us to believe that he is somehow speaking on a higher level? Just how naive are you?

Wacoflyr

 

[GerryG]

Get a spine? Really?
Perhaps you didn't read my post. Rather you just responded with your sock-cucker, fother-mucker comments simply because its me.
Please read again, for I am only answering why these non-relevant threads have been removed.
The closed mindedness here is amazing...

Looks like B19/Skanza forgot which one of his aliases he was posting under.:laugh: As a union-busting functionary, you sure will get your pee-pee slapped for that one sport. I think the wheels are starting to come off the bus in "union avoidance" land.

 

[Way2Broke]

I am going to answer the question, and it is simply liability. Believe it or not we are held responsible for what could be considered slander of a member as the mods/admins of the site. I have said it before, and I am sure I will say it again, it is okay to attack ideas and philosophy's, but it is not okay to attack the member. I am not saying that this in enforced with every thread, mostly because we do not read every thread as there are simply too many, but when we do find something that we believe could put the site in jeopardy from a legal standpoint it is removed. The MODs here are volunteers, and we attempt to serve the community well. Each one of us approaches things a little differently and have a varied background in aviation and in life, thus what one mod does does not always go along with the same mindset another mod may use. However, there is a rules list created by the Admin that we use as a guide. The best way to bring something to our attention is to report a post with a non attacking explanation of what is going on. Thanks for your feedback, and being part of our community. Fly safe.

 

[wacoflyr]

Okay, that explains why Dooker's thread was removed, thanks alot. It does not explain why B19's many personal attacks are tolerated, but maybe there are just too many to police.

Wacoflyr

 

[C425Driver]

Looks like B19/Skanza forgot which one of his aliases he was posting under.:laugh: As a union-busting functionary, you sure will get your pee-pee slapped for that one sport. I think the wheels are starting to come off the bus in "union avoidance" land.

Busted!

 

[jppt2000]

Get a spine? Really?
Perhaps you didn't read my post. Rather you just responded with your sock-cucker, fother-mucker comments simply because its me.
Please read again, for I am only answering why these non-relevant threads have been removed.
The closed mindedness here is amazing...

oops! Looks like skanza and B19 are the same.
IMO any shred of validity in your posts is gone.
Shame on you.

 

[Fozzy]

I say again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by B19 Flyer
There are fracs out there that are non-union with good work ethics and pilots that don’t suffer turmoil.

Who???

 

[CA1900]

Well, CitationShares, for one.

I'll be sure and talk to my furloughed friends from CS and make sure they understand that what they're feeling isn't turmoil.

 

[Fozzy]

Okay, one down. Who is left? Flex? Serious? B19 is a joke.
I wish someone would just out this loser and be done with him.:laugh:

 

[skanza]

Thank you Way2Broke. This is what I was trying to say in post #27. It is silly to attack people personally (especially on the internet). Disagreeing with each other's philosophy and discussing it is what a forum is all about.
At least for grown-ups.

 

[skanza]

here we go with this again...

oops! Looks like skanza and B19 are the same.
IMO any shred of validity in your posts is gone.
Shame on you.

Go ahead with GerryG and C425Driver in thinking that I'm B19. It helps with the obscurity and you'll never know the reality of it because you won't accept it. You may be able to find a post by each on of us on different threads at the same time - how would one guy do that? Carry on.

I still think unions were a short term solution that turned into a long term problem.

Is Toyota or Honda closing any plants/dealerships? (Not that the unions are to blame totally, but they sure didn't help = legacy costs, unrealistic wages [$40/hr to put wheels on? Really?], etc...)

 

[brokeflyer]

I wish we didnt have a union. It costs a lot and creates a lot of reading. But, since management wants to get pilots to fly broken airplanes for less than minimum wage while tired, they asked for and received a union.

Coming on here and spreading the gospel according to b19 wont change anything. YOU as management are the only one who can change things.

Please do. I've said before i'd love to be non-union, but the company wont pay me what the job pays.

 

[CA1900]

You may be able to find a post by each on of us on different threads at the same time - how would one guy do that?

With two web browsers.

 

[brokeflyer]

With two web browsers.

give us some credit, we aint THAT stupid.

2 browsers is the oldest trick in the book.

 

[doh]

oldie but goody!

 

[GerryG]

Go ahead with GerryG and C425Driver in thinking that I'm B19. It helps with the obscurity and you'll never know the reality of it because you won't accept it. You may be able to find a post by each on of us on different threads at the same time - how would one guy do that? Carry on.

I still think unions were a short term solution that turned into a long term problem.

Is Toyota or Honda closing any plants/dealerships? (Not that the unions are to blame totally, but they sure didn't help = legacy costs, unrealistic wages [$40/hr to put wheels on? Really?], etc...)

You responded in the 1st person to an attack on B19, because you forgot which alias you were logged in with. You can't misdirect, or obfuscate that one away, you trickery troll you. You are busted.:beer:

 

[jppt2000]

Go ahead with GerryG and C425Driver in thinking that I'm B19. It helps with the obscurity and you'll never know the reality of it because you won't accept it. You may be able to find a post by each on of us on different threads at the same time - how would one guy do that? Carry on.

I still think unions were a short term solution that turned into a long term problem.

Is Toyota or Honda closing any plants/dealerships? (Not that the unions are to blame totally, but they sure didn't help = legacy costs, unrealistic wages [$40/hr to put wheels on? Really?], etc...)

Oops B19-skanza, you screwed up, I agree with GerryG and 425 you had two browsers open at the same time.
Your validity has been trashed.
It's becoming obvious to me, you are posting with an agenda not of your own.
BTW, your lame excuse underestimates the vast number of folks on this thread who read books with hard covers.
It looks like a village bridge in the forest is missing its troll.

 

[skanza]

You guys are so deverted on who is who when we're trying to debate the need for a union. I kinda like that you think I'm someone else - it almost insures that you will not find out who I really am, or who B19 is for that matter. Not that any of it really matters - but it fun to see you guys bounce around like this. I doubt that B19 is the Bob you think he is. This man has no time for childish internet arguing (as I do have time).
You are not in the same position of remaining anonymous. Just keep writing up airplanes to ground them and stall the operation, regardless of really being broken... That's a fine way for a professional union employee to act.

 

[brokeflyer]

You guys are so deverted on who is who when we're trying to debate the need for a union. I kinda like that you think I'm someone else - it almost insures that you will not find out who I really am, or who B19 is for that matter. Not that any of it really matters - but it fun to see you guys bounce around like this. I doubt that B19 is the Bob you think he is. This man has no time for childish internet arguing (as I do have time).
You are not in the same position of remaining anonymous. Just keep writing up airplanes to ground them and stall the operation, regardless of really being broken... That's a fine way for a professional union employee to act.

whatever kid....nice try but you're done. If you dont like it being broke then go trim some fat from the FAR's.....that's what I go by. If it's broke then it's broke.....no abiguity no questions you have no say in it. Talk it over with the FAA.....then come apologize.


Thre reason you have labor problems is your own fault.....no ones but YOURS....sorry but that is the truth.

Pay me what the job pays and you'll see the unions disappear. Simple as that, I can't make it any easier and i'll even fax it to you.

You as management and your gospel are the only ones that change things....YOU alone.

it's up to YOU if you don't want a union....only YOU.

And all that and I only got 1 browser open...imagine what i could do with a dozen. It's a shame we need a union, so do me a favor and change things.....

 

[jppt2000]

You guys are so deverted on who is who when we're trying to debate the need for a union. I kinda like that you think I'm someone else - it almost insures that you will not find out who I really am, or who B19 is for that matter. Not that any of it really matters - but it fun to see you guys bounce around like this. I doubt that B19 is the Bob you think he is. This man has no time for childish internet arguing (as I do have time).
You are not in the same position of remaining anonymous. Just keep writing up airplanes to ground them and stall the operation, regardless of really being broken... That's a fine way for a professional union employee to act.

B19=skanza=no validity

 

[netjetwife]

Limericks

Jppt, with a sense of humor so droll
Has labeled for us a new type of troll.
Skanza won't be amused
And B19 will cry he's abused
But the other posters are starting to roll!

Jppt, your post inspired me to write in rhyme. I decided a limerick would be fun so I googled "limerick examples" and clicked on the first result. When I read the first limerick, I knew it was meant to be. It is amazingly appropriate! Kudos to the unknown author....


I went to the staffroom one day
For a nice cup of tea during play
But a troll had got in
And was making a din
Even though he had nothing to say.

http://www.teachingideas.co.uk/english/limerick.htm

 

[jppt2000]

You guys are so deverted on who is who when we're trying to debate the need for a union. I kinda like that you think I'm someone else - it almost insures that you will not find out who I really am, or who B19 is for that matter. Not that any of it really matters - but it fun to see you guys bounce around like this. I doubt that B19 is the Bob you think he is. This man has no time for childish internet arguing (as I do have time).
You are not in the same position of remaining anonymous. Just keep writing up airplanes to ground them and stall the operation, regardless of really being broken... That's a fine way for a professional union employee to act.

I think you're getting PAID to debate the need for a union.
You don't care about the debate, you're someone who is doing a job to advance someone else's agenda.
Shame on you
I think once people realize you are using them for your own selfish gain, you'll find less replies to your troll's din.
BTW, this thread should be made a textbook example of a union busting technique.
B19=skanza=no validity=no more benefit of the doubt=busted

 

[B19 Flyer]

It's failed...

I think you're getting PAID to debate the need for a union.
You don't care about the debate, you're someone who is doing a job to advance someone else's agenda.
Shame on you
I think once people realize you are using them for your own selfish gain, you'll find less replies to your troll's din.
BTW, this thread should be made a textbook example of a union busting technique.
B19=skanza=no validity=no more benefit of the doubt=busted

No. You are wrong, like every poster that has made that statement over the years. I am not a union buster, as a matter of fact I've stated manytimes, you wanted your union, you get exactly what you asked for.

I have no agenda, but the events of the last six months are certainly proving my point about unions. As I watch all of these posters scramble to show all these union supporters how wonderful their union is, all I see is a bunch of pilots that are being forced to take lump sum payouts to step away from a job they love to do, with no firm hope that they may ever fly for NJ again.

At least those that were furloughed from the other fracs, and I have been there myself, knew the hazards of being on the bottom of the list. Now, pilots are having large sums of money dangled in front of them (that NJ is having to pay for I might add) to make decisions that will affect their family and career. Many of these pilots will take the packages, change careers and never fly again. I can't help but wonder, and have stated before, how many pilots gave up good flying jobs to take the "industry leading contract" at NJ, only to be faced with this possibility.

The extent of the measures being taken today underscores the risk that a union takes by forcing a huge CBA onto a company. Unions will rarely, if ever participate in the ebb and flows of a business, instead they will take the cash and run. Even now, all the financial participation is on NJ, the union hasn't offered to take a cut in pay to even show a good faith effort to help the company through these tough times.

I've been told recently by every single NJ union supporter on these boards that these types of cuts could never happen. I've been called every name in the book, insulted and thrashed.

These cuts are happening, and this is only the first layer. I wish it wasn't, it is a shame it's happening, but I have made the statement that the industry leading contract was going to pull back to reality, and it's going to happen.

There is little I've stated that hasn't happened over the years... FLOPS still doesn't have a contract, the entire fractional industry painted it's hopes on the NJ CBA and it's high pay and lucrative work rules.

It's failed... when it gets redone, it will be closer to reality and a more realistic mark for the industry to rally around....

 

[B19 Flyer]

Jppt, with a sense of humor so droll
Has labeled for us a new type of troll.
Skanza won't be amused
And B19 will cry he's abused
But the other posters are starting to roll!

Jppt, your post inspired me to write in rhyme. I decided a limerick would be fun so I googled "limerick examples" and clicked on the first result. When I read the first limerick, I knew it was meant to be. It is amazingly appropriate! Kudos to the unknown author....


I went to the staffroom one day
For a nice cup of tea during play
But a troll had got in
And was making a din
Even though he had nothing to say.

http://www.teachingideas.co.uk/english/limerick.htm

And you call yourself a union supporter?

Times like this, you are making fun of people like me that for three years have been telling you something like this could happen because the "industry leading" CBA was too expensive and people would get hurt as a result.

NJW, ....you, your union volunteer husband and and the independent union has failed. The bar was set too high, the CBA has hurt pilots, families, and most of all the fractional industry. This was going to happen, I've said if for years and YOU told me it couldn't happen, just like all the others.

As miserable as I feel for those losing their jobs, I was right and you were wrong.

I told you this was going to happen and your only response is a childish limerick.

Youre union supporting opinions and those disgusting boots are simply repulsive.

 

[jppt2000]

No. You are wrong, like every poster that has made that statement over the years. I am not a union buster, as a matter of fact I've stated manytimes, you wanted your union, you get exactly what you asked for.

I have no agenda, but the events of the last six months are certainly proving my point about unions. As I watch all of these posters scramble to show all these union supporters how wonderful their union is, all I see is a bunch of pilots that are being forced to take lump sum payouts to step away from a job they love to do, with no firm hope that they may ever fly for NJ again.

At least those that were furloughed from the other fracs, and I have been there myself, knew the hazards of being on the bottom of the list. Now, pilots are having large sums of money dangled in front of them (that NJ is having to pay for I might add) to make decisions that will affect their family and career. Many of these pilots will take the packages, change careers and never fly again. I can't help but wonder, and have stated before, how many pilots gave up good flying jobs to take the "industry leading contract" at NJ, only to be faced with this possibility.

The extent of the measures being taken today underscores the risk that a union takes by forcing a huge CBA onto a company. Unions will rarely, if ever participate in the ebb and flows of a business, instead they will take the cash and run. Even now, all the financial participation is on NJ, the union hasn't offered to take a cut in pay to even show a good faith effort to help the company through these tough times.

I've been told recently by every single NJ union supporter on these boards that these types of cuts could never happen. I've been called every name in the book, insulted and thrashed.

These cuts are happening, and this is only the first layer. I wish it wasn't, it is a shame it's happening, but I have made the statement that the industry leading contract was going to pull back to reality, and it's going to happen.

There is little I've stated that hasn't happened over the years... FLOPS still doesn't have a contract, the entire fractional industry painted it's hopes on the NJ CBA and it's high pay and lucrative work rules.

It's failed... when it gets redone, it will be closer to reality and a more realistic mark for the industry to rally around....

Keep pushing the agenda, B19/skanza, I think people are sitting back, realizing you are trying a full court press to deflect attention from the inadvertent discovery that you have at least two user names.
Do you get paid per reply?
B19/skanza=no validity=busted=mercenary troll

 

[brokeflyer]

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

give it up

you lost

 

[ned plimpton]

Jppt, with a sense of humor so droll
Has labeled for us a new type of troll.
Skanza won't be amused
And B19 will cry he's abused
But the other posters are starting to roll!

Jppt, your post inspired me to write in rhyme. I decided a limerick would be fun so I googled "limerick examples" and clicked on the first result. When I read the first limerick, I knew it was meant to be. It is amazingly appropriate! Kudos to the unknown author....


I went to the staffroom one day
For a nice cup of tea during play
But a troll had got in
And was making a din
Even though he had nothing to say.

http://www.teachingideas.co.uk/english/limerick.htm

I'm not even sure if the goofiest oldest great-aunt at my family reunion is capable of something so horrifyingly awkward. Wow.....

P.S. There's a good chance your nephews and nieces dread opening your Christmas presents. Trust me.

 

[netjetwife]

Ned, I make them homemade brownies, cookies, fudge, etc and always include plenty of their favorites so you couldn't be more wrong. And cash is always a big hit. So I'll pass on trusting you ..

Do feel free to skip my posts. I'd hate for you to be horrified over a bit of fun...:erm: