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A legislative requirement to raise the qualifications of incoming airline pilots will have the dual benefit of raising the average experience level along with the requirement to increase pay to attract a suffcient number of pilots who meet that criteria. Airlines will still endeavor to pay as little as possible but it will not be possible to keep their pay where it is and still attract enough qualified pilots.

Those airlines that already require ATP level experience for its new pilots will notice no change. Those that hire 250/50 will have to make major changes to make their airline attractive to the 1500/100 pilot. In fact, they may not be able to compete and remain profitable. That is where survival of the fittest comes in.

The airlines can mollify their Finance Officers by saying, "we wanted to keep the pay low, but that darn requirement for all pilots to have at least ATP level experience made us change our pay structure."
 
Maybe I'm too negative...but I would wager that nothing of substance will come of this...just a lot of talk and hype while the crash is fresh on everyone's mind. Maybe some minor tweaks to the regulations.

Unfortunately, I think we need a few hundred more dead bodies before we get any real substantive change in the fatigue regulations.
 
Yep. We've seen this before. Public uproar, demand change...then nothing.

I give this two weeks after the latest press release, then nothing.

Just today I was on a Colgan flight - only 3 seats open.

No one cares.
 
One thing the media is missing and we keep overlooking on this board is that our unions agreed to this poor first year pay system. Airlines like Delta and Southwest, while having first year pay rates that are considerably lower than second year, at least start out at a livable wage. The companies we work for pay us according to what we negotiate. Yes, 20k a year is an improvement over the companies' first offer, but it is agreed to by our MEC's and then our pilot groups. No law regarding experience is going to impact our mutually agreed upon compensation.
 
One thing the media is missing and we keep overlooking on this board is that our unions agreed to this poor first year pay system. Airlines like Delta and Southwest, while having first year pay rates that are considerably lower than second year, at least start out at a livable wage. The companies we work for pay us according to what we negotiate. Yes, 20k a year is an improvement over the companies' first offer, but it is agreed to by our MEC's and then our pilot groups. No law regarding experience is going to impact our mutually agreed upon compensation.

chalk another one up to the geniuses at ALPA.....
 
Yep. We've seen this before. Public uproar, demand change...then nothing.

I give this two weeks after the latest press release, then nothing.

Just today I was on a Colgan flight - only 3 seats open.

No one cares.

Spot on. The media and public will have plenty of outrage, but not nearly enough to want to pay for the actual value of a flight.
 
Yep. We've seen this before. Public uproar, demand change...then nothing.

I give this two weeks after the latest press release, then nothing.

Just today I was on a Colgan flight - only 3 seats open.

No one cares.


HHMMMM! So YOU were on a Colgan flight...

I see some irony in that post!!!
 

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