NTSB also looking at pilot compensation!

[Andy Neill]

....but then we would have newhires flying at an airline to airline transport pilot standards.....hmmmmm

 

[Superpilot92]

....but then we would have newhires flying at an airline to airline transport pilot standards.....hmmmmm

Scary huh!! !

 

[blesko]

Or as NEDude suggested, as long as they meet the ATP experience requirements, the airline could issue them an ATP at the completion of newhire training.

great idea, but the airline can't do that as the ATP is a PIC evaluated checkride. As the new hire is going through an SIC eval, this does not meet the requirements of the checkride.

 

[NEDude]

Again, the point is raising the bar. You are increasing the steps and time required to go from being a guy with some money and a dream to being in the cockpit of an airliner with passengers. A lot can happen between 250 hours and 1500 hours. Not only is experienced gained, but that time will also "weed out" a lot more people who maybe don't have the aptitude for this.

No plan will be full proof. But you need to start somewhere, and requiring airline pilots to show they can fly to airline transport pilot standards and have airline transport pilot flight time, is a good place to start.

 

[NEDude]

great idea, but the airline can't do that as the ATP is a PIC evaluated checkride. As the new hire is going through an SIC eval, this does not meet the requirements of the checkride.

It could be incorporated into the new-hire training program. Or the airline could require a person have it before they come to work. Either way it doesn't matter. We are talking about raising the bar here, the point is that it will be harder to make it into the cockpit of an airliner.

 

[Cardinal]

great idea, but the airline can't do that as the ATP is a PIC evaluated checkride. As the new hire is going through an SIC eval, this does not meet the requirements of the checkride.

So throw them in whatever seat and give them a type ride. All the better. Maybe then I'd have FO's who could tell me what a pack does, and how the cabin is pressurized...just for starters.

 

[StarHustler]

Are you serious?

Yes, as a matter of fact, I'm DEAD serious.

 

[LazyLightnin']

wow! A thread on fi with productive , intelligent posts! I like.


What, does mesa not suck anymore?

 

[exagony]

that'll put Mesa outta bx though - just had to throw a Mesa jab because this thread has gone way to long with out one!!

 

[Volasl]

As a former check airman at a regional the best student I trained had less that 400 hours on day one of IOE. The worst had over 2500 hours of flight time and an ATP.

Total time is not always the best indicator. Its the quality of the flight time. I do believe a mininum should exist which would hopefully raise the bar with pay. Econ 101 fewer ATP's equal higher demand for their services. Works with oil right?