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ATP means Airline Transport Pilot for a reason....
 
Okay guys, I have practiced what I have been preaching. I sent letters off to both Senators and my Congressman. Time for you guys to do the same. And those of you at ALPA carriers, why not try and put some pressure on them as well. Make them somewhat useful.
 
ATP means Airline Transport Pilot for a reason....

Are you serious? $2,500 and a weekend of your time and it's all yours. The written? LMFAO. Give us $500, we'll give you all the questions and answers. Memorize, go to lunch, come back and see how quickly you can take the test. It will only mean more biz for the weekend ATP schools.
It's the same as Higher Power dishing out 737 types. Exactly what is the pass rate there?
 
Are you serious? $2,500 and a weekend of your time and it's all yours. The written? LMFAO. Give us $500, we'll give you all the questions and answers. Memorize, go to lunch, come back and see how quickly you can take the test. It will only mean more biz for the weekend ATP schools.
It's the same as Higher Power dishing out 737 types. Exactly what is the pass rate there?

The test is not the issue. It's the hour and experience requirements to obtain the rating that would solve some of the problems.
 
Sounds like a good campaign slogan to me. Kinda like "Pistols for Pandas."

"ATPs for ATPs!"
 
Are you serious? $2,500 and a weekend of your time and it's all yours. The written? LMFAO. Give us $500, we'll give you all the questions and answers. Memorize, go to lunch, come back and see how quickly you can take the test. It will only mean more biz for the weekend ATP schools.
It's the same as Higher Power dishing out 737 types. Exactly what is the pass rate there?

The point is not that having an ATP makes you a super pilot, it is about raising the bar.

Allowing any 250 hour commercial pilot to fly an aircraft with 70 people onboard has flooded the industry with underqualified pilots (yet qualified by FAA standards) By requiring an ATP, you will at least require that all applicants have 1500tt, 500 xc, 100 night, 75 instrument, and 250 PIC. (I wouldn't mind seeing that 250 PIC requirement increase to 1000).
 
I like the idea of requiring all pilots flying 121 posses an ATP. Seems reasonable. Heck you need far more experience to run canceled checks in a Cessna than you need to fly a jet full of passengers.

Remember too that most of us get our ATPs when we upgrade. This would most likely require pilots to pay a flight school to get the ATP certificate before applying. Although I could see airlines start to just require ATP minimums for applying and then awarding the ATP certificate at the new-hire check ride. Still, it would begin to limit the supply of low timers ready to jump into an RJ with 500 hours.

Everyone write their Congressmen and Senators and begin a push for this ASAP. Let's get moving people.

I agree, the effects of making an ATP a minimum requirement to fly for the airlines would be huge. It would cut down on the number of pay for training programs and weed out alot of the fodder at the bottom of the chain. Allowing people to get hired at 300 hours means any joe can be hired and the airlines can get away with low pay cause they can hire just about anyone to fill the seat and hope for the best.
 
The point is not that having an ATP makes you a super pilot, it is about raising the bar.

Allowing any 250 hour commercial pilot to fly an aircraft with 70 people onboard has flooded the industry with underqualified pilots (yet qualified by FAA standards) By requiring an ATP, you will at least require that all applicants have 1500tt, 500 xc, 100 night, 75 instrument, and 250 PIC. (I wouldn't mind seeing that 250 PIC requirement increase to 1000).
So a more palatable regulation would be to require Part 121 SICs to be eligible for the ATP - not necessarily that they have the rating nor that they have passed the test.
 
So a more palatable regulation would be to require Part 121 SICs to be eligible for the ATP - not necessarily that they have the rating nor that they have passed the test.

Or as NEDude suggested, as long as they meet the ATP experience requirements, the airline could issue them an ATP at the completion of newhire training.
 

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