LowlyPropCapt
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Unfortunately managements at regional airlines are not that enlightened. Instead of using the DFDR data to identify training and maintence issues to address they use it to identify the pilots involved and then fire the pilots. Consequently most mature Regional contracts have strict language prohibiting the use of 'eletronic data' by management for any purpose.
I work at one of the three regioanls that do have a FOQA program in place. Management is constantly trying to use the data in disciplinary procedings. The FAA isn't much better. The union has had to seek help from the FAA's national program manager to get the local FAA to follow their own rules. It takes time to change old mens attitudes and managements prejudices.
I like when the reporter mentioned to that jackas$ that people come to work tired cause they are only making 20K a year, and he had no answer for her.
What would you have said to that stupid irrelevant question? That Cohen guy could have been a little more subtle with his hate towards pilots but at the end of the day he is right. No one is forcing you to do this job. We are labor and we always will be. And to tell you the truth I can't remember the last time I felt fatigued because there was no adequate rest on my schedule. This is the job that we chose I guaratee you even the highest paid positions in this business will feel fatigued. It's only natural you are flying a tube up in the sky for hours a day. You're not filing tps reports.
I for one welcome this sort of exposure.
Who do you work for CX880, how long have you been there, and are you junior or senior on your fleet and seat? Just curious so I can frame your perspective.
It wasn't an irrelevant question, either. If guys are having to work 2 jobs in order to make ends meet then that is a problem. We're supposed to be all working towards 0 accidents, right? It's impossible to drive toward that goal without addressing fatigue and if low pay is a factor, then it needs to be at least considered.
Further, are you saying that because YOU haven't personally experienced a fatiguing schedule that fatigue doesn't exist in the regional airline industry? Is that the point you were trying to make?
The only thing the FAA mandates is crew rest. As the industry has demonstrated before, and probably again, they can find employees who are willing to work for free, or worse yet, pay for the job. It's a free country and if you accept a job at 20K and then complain that it is not enough money, then you can quit or get another job. If enough people did this, then guess what, contractors would have to pay $40K to hire new pilots as that would be the going rate.
It's like the debate over the minimum wage being $5 an hour and Mc D's is paying $7.50, that is the true minimum wage.
Honestly, most of the public just doesn't give a moments thought to how much you do or do not make, they expect the FAA to ensure that your company operates in a safe manner and your company will offer the lowest cost labor to get that job done in order to win the next contract. That's the way it is.
Who do you work for CX880, how long have you been there, and are you junior or senior on your fleet and seat? Just curious so I can frame your perspective.
It wasn't an irrelevant question, either. If guys are having to work 2 jobs in order to make ends meet then that is a problem. We're supposed to be all working towards 0 accidents, right? It's impossible to drive toward that goal without addressing fatigue and if low pay is a factor, then it needs to be at least considered.
Further, are you saying that because YOU haven't personally experienced a fatiguing schedule that fatigue doesn't exist in the regional airline industry? Is that the point you were trying to make?