pass travel on DL formalized

[PuffDriver]

From what i understand, Delta will indeed have priority over anyone on Delta flights. Delta will have equal priority over everyone on their connection carrier, except skywest and asa where the current policy will remain in place.

It's all posted on DeltaNET.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Yeppers. Now why is EV, and SW different. I am guessing their DCI contract, but it still stumps me.

 

[BoilerUP]

So a DAL pilot has priority over a Chautauqua or Pinnacle pilot on their own metal?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

no everyone is DOH.

 

[BoilerUP]

no everyone is DOH.

So a 30 year Delta 777 captain will ride before a 2 year Chautauqua FO, when boarding a Chautauqua airplane? Or am I misunderstanding you?

 

[Full of LUV]

You are correct, SIR!

So a 30 year Delta 777 captain will ride before a 2 year Chautauqua FO, when boarding a Chautauqua airplane? Or am I misunderstanding you?

You are correct. No misunderstanding. 2 year Chautauqua FO will ride before a 1 yr DAL 767 FO or a 1 year Comair FA, so there is something!

 

[fly2002]

hmm...

well this is complete B.S.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Yeppers. Now why is EV, and SW different. I am guessing their DCI contract, but it still stumps me.

Why should you go before an ASA or Skywest employee on an ASA or Skywest flight?

 

[General Lee]

well this is complete B.S.

On a Delta mainline flight, DL employees will have priority over EVERYONE else not working at DL. On Delta Connection flights, it will go DOH. That is better than the 25 year Comair Captain beating me out of a mainline first class seat. Not anymore....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[PulluP]

Doesn't it have to do with who owns/pays for the assets (aircraft and facilities)? That is, Delta owns or holds the leases on aircraft at wholly-owned carriers, but ASA and Skywest own their own equipment. If Delta pays for the equipment, then their employees should have priority, since they should really be the ones operating it.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Doesn't it have to do with who owns/pays for the assets (aircraft and facilities)? That is, Delta owns or holds the leases on aircraft at wholly-owned carriers, but ASA and Skywest own their own equipment. If Delta pays for the equipment, then their employees should have priority, since they should really be the ones operating it.

This is incorrect.

Other carriers are risk sharing partners as it pertains to aircraft leases and other liabilities as well.
The reason ASA ad SKW did not change was the fact that DAL has a pass agreement with them. It is tied in to their DCI contract.
Fact is DAL owns the code on all DCI flights, we have bought all of your block hrs up. In effect you are an ACMI operator. Until you start selling seats under the EV code, which by the way if you read the ASA DCI agreement cannot happen until 2020 or so, this will not change.

Also FWIW, DAL owns a bunch of ASA's jets, and holds the leases on a bunch too.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Why should you go before an ASA or Skywest employee on an ASA or Skywest flight?

Guess because we go DOH on all other DCI jets. It is the precedence. It will be that way some day Joe, count on it.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Also FWIW, do not blast the pilots from any airline, management determines how these are managed.

 

[PuffDriver]

Why should you go before an ASA or Skywest employee on an ASA or Skywest flight?

Because Delta is taking the risk on the flight. It's coming to ASA and Skywest as well. Don't forget, though, there is no benefit to you coming over to mainline :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

 

[Simon Says]

This is not a bad deal for the DCI carriers. We ride for free on Delta and NWA Mainline. Don't forget that!

I rember the day that we got higher priority than NWA on Mesaba aircraft, but then we had to pay $25 one way and $50 round trip to ride on Northwest Mainline. They can have DOH to ride on Mesaba aircraft so as long as my family and myself get to ride for free on mainline.

 

[hockeypilot44]

This is not a bad deal for the DCI carriers. We ride for free on Delta and NWA Mainline. Don't forget that!

I rember the day that we got higher priority than NWA on Mesaba aircraft, but then we had to pay $25 one way and $50 round trip to ride on Northwest Mainline. They can have DOH to ride on Mesaba aircraft so as long as my family and myself get to ride for free on mainline.

Wow. An intelligent post from a regional guy on this subject.

 

[volav8r1]

This is not a bad deal for the DCI carriers. We ride for free on Delta and NWA Mainline. Don't forget that!

I rember the day that we got higher priority than NWA on Mesaba aircraft, but then we had to pay $25 one way and $50 round trip to ride on Northwest Mainline. They can have DOH to ride on Mesaba aircraft so as long as my family and myself get to ride for free on mainline.

Ahhh.....A reasonable man!! You sir are a rare find. Well done.

Vol

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Doesn't it have to do with who owns/pays for the assets (aircraft and facilities)? That is, Delta owns or holds the leases on aircraft at wholly-owned carriers, but ASA and Skywest own their own equipment. If Delta pays for the equipment, then their employees should have priority, since they should really be the ones operating it.

So Delta EMPLOYS said carrier to fly which in turn gives them a route structure wich in turn leads to jobs at your carrier. The flight is sold AS DELTA, THEY ARE DELTA SEATS. I think it's fair.

Besides, you can thank all of your brethren who abused the positive space travel upgrades for this change. I know a lot of us were fed up about Freedom FLIGHT ATTENDANTS in First class while I was in a middle seat in the back of my own 757.

It sucks but the whole cart and the horse thing comes to mind.

 

[SoberIrishman]

I think the word "freedom" says a lot. We all know who they work for!

 

[sweptback]

Besides, you can thank all of your brethren who abused the positive space travel upgrades for this change. I know a lot of us were fed up about Freedom FLIGHT ATTENDANTS in First class while I was in a middle seat in the back of my own 757.

Anybody traveling positive space on Delta can list at the gate for a standby upgrade to first. I don't see how taking advantage of this policy is somehow abusing it.