Evergreen Sonair

[waka]

I heard that you guys signed a contract to use your crews to fly their 7-4's? What's the scoop? When does that go into effect?

 

[cherry20's]

When are they going to recall their furloughed pilots...

 

[propsarebest]

Contract "ain't" gonna happen from what I am hearing. World was awarded it again.

Our offer was for a 747-400, World was for the MD-11. Sonair said thanks but no thanks.

As far as the furloughed guys go, your guess is a good as mine. There are quite a few good guys waiting for a phone call...

 

[spitfire1500]

Contract "ain't" gonna happen from what I am hearing. World was awarded it again.

Our offer was for a 747-400, World was for the MD-11. Sonair said thanks but no thanks.

As far as the furloughed guys go, your guess is a good as mine. There are quite a few good guys waiting for a phone call...

World is doing it on a month by month basis until the 747-4's are up and running...this is what World told some of their crews...whether Evergreen got it or not is another story.

 

[servicemonkey]

Rumors at World:
*Contract is over in September (furlough 60 FA's).
*Sonair already has three 74s on the property waiting to be operated by a contractor to the US and China.
*They want an Angolan pilot in the cockpit, will never happen with a World contract.
*They want Angolan FAs, another World no go.
*Evergreen got the contract.
*Atlas got the contract.

 

[propsarebest]

EZ will NEVER put an Angolan in the cockpit...

 

[spitfire1500]

There are two ex Oasis 74 combi's in Marana that are supposedly for SonAir

 

[spitfire1500]

EZ will NEVER put an Angolan in the cockpit...

I don't know about that...Evergreen was quite willing to stick crews in planes with JADE pilots a year ago. I would never underestimate what Dell would do for dollars. It would actually make sense to use their FA's and qualify EZ crews for their airplanes and certificate rather than EZ having to set up and get FAA OP Specs and approval for their own FA program.

 

[propsarebest]

The FA thing I believe. The Jade "experiment" was an attempt to make some money by using our already qualified 400 guys.

I don't know about that...Evergreen was quite willing to stick crews in planes with JADE pilots a year ago. I would never underestimate what Dell would do for dollars. It would actually make sense to use their FA's and qualify EZ crews for their airplanes and certificate rather than EZ having to set up and get FAA OP Specs and approval for their own FA program.

 

[sat74]

Any new info on this rumor?

 

[unwashed]

The true owner of WOA's MD-11ER's is Boeing. Boeing wants the ER Pax aircraft out of the market as they compete for 777 slots. So the ER's are slated for Cargo conversion in the future, when I don't know.

 

[waka]

The true owner of WOA's MD-11ER's is Boeing. Boeing wants the ER Pax aircraft out of the market as they compete for 777 slots. So the ER's are slated for Cargo conversion in the future, when I don't know.

And this means what pertaining to this thread? Are you saying that Sonair and Boeing are in bed with each other for something that amounts to no more than 2 airplanes, neither of which are 777's?

 

[Hocus Focus]

Expect news on this Monday.

 

[unwashed]

And this means what pertaining to this thread? Are you saying that Sonair and Boeing are in bed with each other for something that amounts to no more than 2 airplanes, neither of which are 777's?

Sorry I will be more specific, If WOA doesn't have a ER they can't fly the route and WOA at this time does not have 47 pax aircraft on the way or on their certificate. Sonair has these 47's ready to operate and needs someone to do it.
988 26474 B747-451 N106UA Stored at Seoul (ICN) United Airlines United Airlines
1199 29262 B747-481 N262SG Stored at Kuala Lumpur (SZB) ANA - All Nippon Airways JA403A ANA - All Nippon Airways
1204 29263 B747-481 N263SG Stored at Marana (MZJ) Oasis Hong Kong Airlines B-LFC ANA - All Nippon Airways
1250 30322 B747-481 N322SG Stored at Victorville (VCV) Oasis Hong Kong Airlines B-LFD ANA - All Nippon Airways

 

[unwashed]

info from www.ch-aviation.ch

 

[Hocus Focus]

World currently flies Sonair..Houston -Luanda on a special config MD-11.

 

[waka]

Sorry I will be more specific, If WOA doesn't have a ER they can't fly the route and WOA at this time does not have 47 pax aircraft on the way or on their certificate. Sonair has these 47's ready to operate and needs someone to do it.
988 26474 B747-451 N106UA Stored at Seoul (ICN) United Airlines United Airlines
1199 29262 B747-481 N262SG Stored at Kuala Lumpur (SZB) ANA - All Nippon Airways JA403A ANA - All Nippon Airways
1204 29263 B747-481 N263SG Stored at Marana (MZJ) Oasis Hong Kong Airlines B-LFC ANA - All Nippon Airways
1250 30322 B747-481 N322SG Stored at Victorville (VCV) Oasis Hong Kong Airlines B-LFD ANA - All Nippon Airways

World is already flying Houston to Luanda for Sonair on a World MD-11.

As for the 747's, World never had a serious intention to get pax 747's for Sonair....it was just talk and the idea was canned long before this current bid. The contract bid has been about other airlines crewing Sonair's 747's all along.

 

[Hocus Focus]

I guess that explains Sonair coming to World HDQ on Monday...We Will See

 

[waka]

World has the Sonair flying for at least another year.

 

[propsarebest]

That's good to hear.