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W.Times editorial: Obama secretly ends FFDO program?

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The authors evidence is that some training money will be spent on supervision instead?

When did training slow down? Why did training slow down? Is it simply because now we're reaching a level where most who want to be one have gone through the training?

People really need to start evaluating and discerning between editorial opinion and facts based on evidence.

You shouldn't have to agree with a news outlet's point of view. They shouldn't have one! See above.
 
I love it...

We spend millions of dollars so a few pilots can tote guns that won't be used from behind a door that won't be opened, but it's too expensive for the FAA to overhaul our flight time/duty time limits.

Half of us are flying so tired most of the time that we wouldn't be able to aim a gun if we wanted to!!
 
And Soccer Moms everywhere say "Good! I was never comfortable with guns so close to my kids anyway!" This is "good" politics, not good policy. I support the program, but keep in mind that there are a good many irrational people who don't, and many of them vote Dem.

FAIL

Soccer moms were the more ardent supporters of the FFDO program. Most likely due to their (un) natural prediliction for putting the responsibility for securing their own safety on the backs of others, as well as their complete aversion to risk in all its forms, no matter how insignificant.

Dam the reasons, they supported it, and I was glad. They may drive minivans into convienience stores while yaking on their cell phones with alarming regularity, but don't give them poop for this. The ignoranus Dumbocraps may still believe that harming the FFDO program will please them, but it wouldn't be teh 135th mistake they have made in 2009, now would it?
 
This Administration has already sent strong signals that it is hostile to the whole concept of defensive firearms in the hands of citizens. Sounds like par for the course to me.
 
Originally Posted by Lear70

I'm guessing you didn't read the full article...he's not ending the program... but...rather...beginning...IF...other...reason...s tart...


A whole lot of nothing, you must been a fan of faux news.
Are you smoking crack?

Trying to figure out why you chopped up the paragraph, because I didn't see ANY kind of logic to what you wrote or why...

Feel free to elaborate so everyone else can understand, too.
 
I say good riddance. This program was entirely precipitated by a bunch of gun nuts that thought they would get the right to "concealed carry" when there was absolutely NO reason for them to have a weapon.

ALPA was opposed to this program from the get-go if you recall. It was only when the gun nuts formed APSA that ALPA relented and grudgingly supported the program.

Believe me, we had one of the original APSA nuts. He failed the FFDO program the first time, passed the second time and eventually was terminated when he "forgot" his weapon in a public restroom.

The FFDO program will never have any value until you build a flight deck door with a gun port in it. Otherwise, the door has to be opened for the FFDO to have any effect on the situation. The Turkish 737 crash proved the strength of the door. In that crash, the F/O died because the rescuers couldn't get through the flight deck door for 45 minutes.

FFDOs? Good riddance. We've already had one monkey put a round through an airframe. Its only a matter of time before one of these guys shoots either himself or his flying partner.

$2M for this program? Total waste of taxpayer money.
 
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I say good riddance. This program was entirely precipitated by a bunch of gun nuts that thought they would get the right to "concealed carry" when there was absolutely NO reason for them to have a weapon.

ALPA was opposed to this program from the get-go if you recall. It was only when the gun nuts formed APSA that ALPA relented and grudgingly supported the program.

Believe me, we had one of the original APSA nuts. He failed the FFDO program the first time, passed the second time and eventually was terminated when he "forgot" his weapon in a public restroom.

The FFDO program will never have any value until you build a flight deck door with a gun port in it. Otherwise, the door has to be opened for the FFDO to have any effect on the situation. The Turkish 737 crash proved the strength of the door. In that crash, the F/O died because the rescuers couldn't get through the flight deck door for 45 minutes.

FFDOs? Good riddance. We've already had one monkey put a round through and airframe. Its only a matter of time before one of these guys shoots either himself or his flying partner.

$2M for this program? Total waste of taxpayer money.

thank you, someone that sees the program for what it is. A BIG WASTE OF MONEY and SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
 

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