W.Times editorial: Obama secretly ends FFDO program?

[Britpilot]

Then there is the pro 'right to carry' crowd. I call it
'small penis syndrome'.

Pilots are not cops. Their primary concern and thought process is flying the airplane and completing the trip safely aeronautically. It is not enforcing laws or their weapon or using it.



Pilots are very good at we do with airplanes, but good with handling deadly weapons on the job we are not.

Guess I must have a small penis then. I call it "The right do defend myself"

Tell that to a terrorist, they don't want you to complete your trip safely. The threat is real my friend.

That is your opinion with which I and a great many others do not agree with.

 

[PuffDriver]

This is the POTUS that ALPA wanted in there....Be careful what you wish for.....

Wait for it...wait for it.....
:bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

 

[Flying-Corporal]

Ha, ha, ha, oh boy that's good. Other agencies keeping us safe? Like who?

I am glad I made laugh, mate . TSA, for one. Police, two. Travelling public, three. Just because one has a gun, doesn't mean he is the king of the hill. If I am not mistaken Britpilot, police used to not carry weapons in England not too long ago.

You are not privy to the the FFDO program otherwise you may have some more information on what they know and do.

Well, if a disaster has been averted I think I should know about it as a citizen. The shoebomber disaster has been talked about in the media. We pay paxes that finance various programms, I want to know how necessary/effecient/useful/etc. it is. Prove me wrong, why sound so misterious???

 

[greyskyracer]

Couldn't agree with you more. Most FFDOs that I've flown with don't even bother putting it on the belt in-flight, so what's the point of having it if it's locked safely in the box?

I have mixed feelings about the program, but I do feel if they choose to be an FFDO that burden should lay on them. Strap your gun on your belt. I do not want a gun flying around the flight deck in severe turbulance. Take your gun with you on your walk around or when you run inside to take a dump. It is not my responsibility to watch it.

 

[skywiz]

Even if in box, there still is a value

Couldn't agree with you more. Most FFDOs that I've flown with don't even bother putting it on the belt in-flight, so what's the point of having it if it's locked safely in the box?

Not saying that they should keep it in the box... BUT part of the benefit of the program is DETERRANCE... terrorists are probably less likely to attempt a hijacking type attack if they know the pilot may have a gun in the cockpit.

 

[FR8mastr]

Then there is the pro 'right to carry' crowd. I call it
'small penis syndrome'.

One usually hears that line from a 30 something woman with about 500 CC's of substance shoved into her body along with a few ounces of poison injected into her face, commenting on some dude who can finally afford the sports car he has always wanted.
So if your not a woman what is the fascination with accusing anyone that does something you dont like of having a small penis?

 

[SplitBar]

I say good riddance. This program was entirely precipitated by a bunch of gun nuts that thought they would get the right to "concealed carry" when there was absolutely NO reason for them to have a weapon.

ALPA was opposed to this program from the get-go if you recall. It was only when the gun nuts formed APSA that ALPA relented and grudgingly supported the program.

Believe me, we had one of the original APSA nuts. He failed the FFDO program the first time, passed the second time and eventually was terminated when he "forgot" his weapon in a public restroom.

The FFDO program will never have any value until you build a flight deck door with a gun port in it. Otherwise, the door has to be opened for the FFDO to have any effect on the situation. The Turkish 737 crash proved the strength of the door. In that crash, the F/O died because the rescuers couldn't get through the flight deck door for 45 minutes.

FFDOs? Good riddance. We've already had one monkey put a round through an airframe. Its only a matter of time before one of these guys shoots either himself or his flying partner.

$2M for this program? Total waste of taxpayer money.

Agreed !

 

[turbodriver]

After having flown with FFDO's who shouldn't be trusted with a water pistol, I'm not surprised by this.....

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Erin Andrews ... aahhhh. That's a whole lot of sumpin.

Charissa Thompson is better....

 

[WMUSIGPI]

This Administration has already sent strong signals that it is hostile to the whole concept of defensive firearms in the hands of citizens. Sounds like par for the course to me.

Perhaps because this Admin. is a blink of an eye away from being Socialists???