How about this for PBS at ASA

[Tarzan]

Pbs saves money how? Less people needed, why is that a good thing for us? We have 80 out now. Lower bid position on the airplane, a pay cut because of less day's off a year, blind bidding, and the list goes on.

Sure the senior guy's including the union members you talk about might see a benefit in it, but the junior people will suffer for it.

You are missing the forest because there is a tree in the way.

Point #1 Since our costs are out of line with the rest of the DCI carriers in the 70-76 seat department, it will continue to be difficult to obtain new flying.
Point #2 The sooner we get our costs lower, the sooner we appeal to other carriers as a reasonable and efficient airline.

There are always survival periods when a company transitions from the old way to the new way. ASA happened to get nailed by a economic slowdown during theirs. These guys do no appear to be stepping over the dollar to get at the shiny dime (well sometimes). But there have large amounts of money spent in the near term for long term savings. All this planning is to get costs in line or even lower while have an airline that runs on time and completes it's flight. PBS is going to help with the costs. It will eventually mean more pilots when we secure some more flying.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Pbs saves money how? Less people needed, why is that a good thing for us? We have 80 out now. Lower bid position on the airplane, a pay cut because of less day's off a year, blind bidding, and the list goes on.

Sure the senior guy's including the union members you talk about might see a benefit in it, but the junior people will suffer for it.

The "junior people" will suffer the most as we shrink because we can't compete within the "portfolio concept"...PBS is a way to get those costs in line with some of our competitors.....Time to look at the big picture....

 

[HoserASA]

If ASA doesn't get these mtc deals under control, we won't have to worry about PBS! What's up with all the mtc delays and incidents?

Hoser
Roll Tide!

 

[USCtrojan]

If ASA doesn't get these mtc deals under control, we won't have to worry about PBS! What's up with all the mtc delays and incidents?

Hoser
Roll Tide!

It's because you've been getting your filthy 'Tide' hands all over them, so they're all breaking!!!! Stay away HOSER!!!!!

Trojan

 

[OCP]

Let me guess... 2 more pages on college football with you two?

 

[Brody1]

I was at OO when Brad sold this to us. It was the single worst thing that happened during my time there. I can't even begin to state the reasons why- too many of them. DON'T BUY INTO ALL THE CRAP THEY'RE TELLING YOU!! Take it from someone who's been on the receiving end of PBS.

Don't just vote no- vote HELL no.

 

[Tarzan]

I was at OO when Brad sold this to us. It was the single worst thing that happened during my time there. I can't even begin to state the reasons why- too many of them. DON'T BUY INTO ALL THE CRAP THEY'RE TELLING YOU!! Take it from someone who's been on the receiving end of PBS.

Don't just vote no- vote HELL no.

If it was so horrible, the pilot group would have organized.

 

[Brody1]

If it was so horrible, the pilot group would have organized.

Not quite that simple. There's a particular religious persuasion that's, shall we say, rather prevelant within the rank-and-file, as well as in management. Us non-believers felt as if we were outnumbered (although that may not have been the case). Many (but not all) of these folks weren't able to think for themselves- the church did it for them. At the time, the conventional wisdom coming from management was that PBS was good for the company- and any organized union (other than in-house) was bad. In that environment, organizing a union is a little like pushing a snowball uphill. Having personally been hosed in a big way more than once by ALPA, I was against bringing them on property. I thought we were better served by dissolving the current in-house union, and starting over with fresh blood.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Yes, No or Undecided...please go to the roadshows and get informed either way.

We don't need another apathetic turnout when this vote happens.

 

[Smoke Toliet]

PBS for one list.