SW has a TA

[redflyer65]

Just released but still needs BOD approval. Sounds like a slight pay increase with increase to 401k and better scheduling rules.

Nice going guys!

RF

 

[Linedriver]

I'm optimistic for you guys. Maybe it will raise the bar.

 

[Dizel8]

Congrats guys!

 

[BoilerUP]

Scope?

 

[Dizel8]

Scope?

It is a kind of mouthwash that claims to improve your breath!

 

[chris69]

Had about 40 pilots show up in DAL at the HQ lunch room. Exerpts from SWAPA Pres email:

Last night SWAPA agreed in principle on a new five year contract with the Company through August 31, 2011. This new contract includes the following: stronger scope language as well as codeshare restrictions not previously released including no domestic codeshare, increase in pay rates including retroactive pay, increase in 401K match, improved disability program and streamlined/improved scheduling and work rule language. Additionally we have retained the Lance Captain program and ELITT albeit with changes to current language. Our Negotiating Committee (NC) is continuing to negotiate final language and when that work is completed will present a Tentative Agreement to the BoD for approval. If the BoD approves the new contract it will be sent to the membership for final ratification. I anticipate a BoD meeting in late February or early March to review the TA.

Also, seems mechs have approved their TA:

From the AMFA website:
Thursday, 29 January 2009
AURORA, Colo.- Today, AMFA announces the passage of the tentative agreement with Southwest Airlines. The referendum passed as follows: 60.56% to accept, 38.92% to reject, and 0.51% to abstain. The Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) will be signed next week in Dallas, and the ratification bonuses will be distributed shortly.
The new contract provides for wage increases that amount to a combined 17% increase over the four (4) year term of the Agreement: 10% in base wage increases and 7% in obtainable ratification/productivity bonuses (3% ratification bonus, 3% base raises in 2009, 2010 and 2011, and a 1% increase in 2012). Also, employees at the “thereafter” rate of the pay scale will receive a 1% productivity bonus all four (4) years.
The new contract also includes a Letter of Agreement restricting the Company’s ability to perform maintenance at international locations to a maximum of four (4) lines should the need arise. This new language removes the Company’s current unlimited ability to take non-customarily preformed work out of the United States. The language negotiated places a clear and defined limitation on how much work can be sent to an international location, and established a limited time period for taking this repair work out of country.
There is also enhanced job security and protection language in the new Agreement covering minimum staffing levels, no blending of work with vendors, future aircraft fleet-types being our work, and a Company paid AMFA member position to monitor all outsourcing activity.
AMFA is the largest craft union representing aircraft technicians and related employees and serves members at Alaska Airlines, Horizon Air, Mesaba Airlines, Northwest Airlines, and Southwest Airlines. This Association’s motto is "Safety in the air begins with quality maintenance on the ground."

 

[redflyer65]

Rumor is no domestic codeshare and 'stronger' language than before...for what it's worth.

RF

 

[DAL737FO]

What % pay increases each year? Just trying to figure out how bad we took it in the shorts.

 

[Lear70]

How interesting... was just listening to SWAPA president Kuwitzy this morning. Of course he didn't say anything about it, but he did comment a couple times about them being in Section 6 negotiations.

Congrats, guys and gals, hope it's everything you were shooting for!

 

[RedDogC130]

What % pay increases each year? Just trying to figure out how bad we took it in the shorts.

would bet 3% each year retro to 2 years ago when the contract expired....just based on what the mx folks just got...we shall see

 

[magrs]

AMR's turn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[T3700]

Great! Now AirTran is going to demand SWA -70%

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

Great! Now AirTran is going to demand SWA -70%

D!ck!!

 

[Lear70]

Actually, I thought it was kinda funny...

Everyone's a comedian,,, joke's on you when we get SWA + 10%.

 

[mt2]

AMFA -- SWAPA -- F/A's next?

 

[hockeypilot44]

Great! Now AirTran is going to demand SWA -70%

That's hilarious. In all serious though, I always want to see every single pilot group get more money. It will get our industry going in the right direction. Hopefully, we can start a race to the top.

 

[maxblast72]

Airtran's 15 year Captain pay on the failed TA2 was over $180/hr or Southwest -10/15%. Of course, that 15 year pay scale doesn't do most of us any good until 2015-2020.

 

[scoreboardII]

vote no, it has all international including HI and Alaska going to codeshare.

 

[ATLboeing]

Nice going. The rest of the management groups in this industry have their heads so far up their collective arses that they flat out refuse to believe the Southwest way of doing things and treating their internal customers is a winning formula.
Oh no, they're convinced Lorenzo is a God.
Thanks for raising the bar and doing so in such a timely fashion.

 

[Frank Lorenzo]

Oh no, they're convinced Lorenzo is a God.

You're just jealous.

I like this TA. Weak 3% COLA raises and codeshare loopholes.

I couldn't have negotiaed a better one myself.

 

[Reebo]

You're just jealous.

I like this TA. Weak 3% COLA raises and codeshare loopholes.

I couldn't have negotiaed a better one myself.

I was just thinking, what if Frank Lorenzo really is Frank Lorenzo

 

[Clacker]

I was just thinking, what if Frank Lorenzo really is Frank Lorenzo

Ha!

I gotta admit that I enjoy Frank's posts. An unwavering ray of cynicism which never fails to make me smile. Probably not the real "Frankie Smooth Talk" but entertaining nonetheless.


Anyway, I'm happy for the SW guys

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

Scope?

"No" domestic codeshare, "no" Commuters, or it's a "no"
KBB

 

[Splert]

"No" domestic codeshare, "no" Commuters, or it's a "no"
KBB

Respectfully...What about SLC to YVR?

 

[Colonel Savage]

...I like this TA. Weak 3% COLA raises and codeshare loopholes....

Priceless! LMFAO...

 

[rajflyboy]

Looks like more negative profits for 2009 !!

"Every Dog has Its Day"

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Great job SWA....

Believe it or not, there are some people happy for you, unlike the usual jealousy that gets spewed on here. To get a raise on the head of a recession, is remarkable....

Watch that scope though....us Delta pukes let that camel under the tent and we pay for it many contracts later.....

On a funny note, Jumpseated the other day and heard the inbound crew meet the outbound crew on the jetway......"Dude, good Jet, it even has autothrottles, pretty cool...." (I know why it's a big deal, I just found it funny...)

 

[Murphy]

Great! Now AirTran is going to demand SWA -70%

Yeah. What are the new SWA FO rates so AirTran Captains can tell their negotiators what to shoot for? Sad, but true.

 

[Dizel8]

Yeah. What are the new SWA FO rates so AirTran Captains can tell their negotiators what to shoot for? Sad, but true.

Count jetblue in on that one as well, current 9th year pay for A320 CA is a whopping 8 bucks more than 9th year SWA FO:crying:

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

Respectfully...What about SLC to YVR?

That'll probably happen, originally they hinted that with the "Open Skies" that will be coming to the US was that a pax could fly on west jet from YVR to den, then onto LAS. Never touching a SWA plane, it's still possible for a pax to go from YVR to LAS ok west jet, change planes to Volaris and then fly to Mexico. That will have to be looked at how it was addressed in the new contract.

It was interesting the exchange that took place between our union president and the CEO of Volaris. Apparently the CEO said that we couldn't do that flying, most of us had never even heard of Volaris before the codeshare announcement.

Have to see the fine print and read between the lines, at least half the guys here worked at a previous Major or Commuter and know where this stuff leads!

I think we're all for the company making money (we still get profit sharing, although it will be smaller for 2008) but not at the expense of jobs or job security!

Later,
KBB