Is on demand cargo dead?

[TWA]

Kind of like your dream of being 6 feet tall?

That one's gonna leave a mark!

 

[pilotyip]

But every time it has come back, it has come back at a lower level.

 

[landlover]

ON DEMAND CARGO IS OVER, GONE, NAIL IN THE COFFIN, KAPUT......ANY QUESTIONS? CARRY ON, I WILL BE ON THE BOARD ALL DAY.

write it down, memorize it, take a picture! it's a fact!

 

[pilotyip]

wrong, sick but not dead

write it down, memorize it, take a picture! it's a fact!

We have flown a dozen or so on-demand trips this month, down from last month. That is not dead, sick yes, but not dead

 

[landlover]

We have flown a dozen or so on-demand trips this month, down from last month. That is not dead, sick yes, but not dead

We?? who is "we"? Do you have a frog in your pocket? Didn't your beloved usajet terminate everyone, including you? Oh wait, you elected to "retire". I think you found your new soap box pyip, now you can try to convince everyone on-demand cargo isn't dead, instead of how "great" usajet was(notice the emphasis on past tense), or how a college degree is a waste of time.

 

[pilotyip]

Hey be nice

We?? who is "we"? Do you have a frog in your pocket? Didn't your beloved usajet terminate everyone, including you? Oh wait, you elected to "retire". I think you found your new soap box pyip, now you can try to convince everyone on-demand cargo isn't dead, instead of how "great" usajet was(notice the emphasis on past tense), or how a college degree is a waste of time.

Hey be nice, Oh! I'm sorry I forgot this is flt info. On-demand is not dead, it is just sick right now. Is it terminal? Only time will tell. If guys are still making a living flying on-demand, then it can not be dead, can it? BTW I am still a contractor so I guess "we" fits just a little, then again old habits die hard

 

[landlover]

don't confuse me being mean with me pointing out the truth. since the truth can hurt i guess they are one in the same in this case.

 

[Spoolingbyu]

Obamanation

How quickly did you all forget we have all this change and hope, hope and change! On demand is not dead! It is coming back. Every on demand operator will patiently wait his turn in line for a stale, moldy slice of auto parts. Washed down by a dirty glass of watered down backhaul.

USA JET will be operating a dozen -9s by summer with all the stimulation in the economy. JUST YOU WAIT. The hiring boom of 2009 is upon us! You heard it here first!

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

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ok call it. Death at 2009.

CE

 

[pilotyip]

Sounds just like 2002, "Oh there will never be any jobs again, this is thr end of any chance to make a living flying airplanes" "Woe is me" There is growing world wide shortage of pilots and the hiring boom is out there somewhere in the future.

 

[AceCrackshot]

Sounds just like 2002, "Oh there will never be any jobs again, this is thr end of any chance to make a living flying airplanes" "Woe is me" There is growing world wide shortage of pilots and the hiring boom is out there somewhere in the future.

That hiring boom is a fact. The accompanying sad fact is that it won't be an AMERICAN hiring boom flying AMERICAN equipment.

See also, American flagged Commerical Shipping.

The American Aviation Industry is heading the way of the American Merchant Marine.

Wong and Juan will do it cheaper than us.

 

[414Flyer]

That hiring boom is a fact. The accompanying sad fact is that it won't be an AMERICAN hiring boom flying AMERICAN equipment.

See also, American flagged Commerical Shipping.

The American Aviation Industry is heading the way of the American Merchant Marine.

Wong and Juan will do it cheaper than us.

Its hard for it to get any less than it is here. Actually a lot of people go overseas to get paid better than here.

The unfortunately reality is that foreign pilots probably have more to fear from Americans going over there to work for less, than Americans have to worry about them coming here.

 

[AceCrackshot]

Its hard for it to get any less than it is here. Actually a lot of people go overseas to get paid better than here.

The unfortunately reality is that foreign pilots probably have more to fear from Americans going over there to work for less, than Americans have to worry about them coming here.

Like many pilots, you're thinking only about pilots.

Pilots overseas get paid a bunch more than we do, ok that's a fact, generally speaking.

But the growth in aviation will be in India, China, and other developing countries, where the total payroll costs are much, much less.

Additionally, the companies are generally supported much better than American companies, and often are considered "national champion" companies deserving of significant .gov support, when they're not owned outright by the local .gov.

Someday, probably soon, cabotage will be traded away to foreigners for military sales or diplomatic support or some other "critical" need of the U.S.

 

[canadflyau]

If guys are still making a living flying on-demand, then it can not be dead, can it?

I don't know the exact numbers... but 8 out of 50 (it was 100 just 4 yrs ago) at USAJ are "making a living," and USAJ is trying to cause a feeding frenzy with the others to fight for contractor scraps.

FWIW, I always HOPE your optimism is right and things will CHANGE. I hope that USAJ isn't redefining how they do business in the future and creating a "D" scale. Only a pilot shortage when demand returns will end that.

 

[Bryan D]

Cargo ain't dead but it is definetly in hibernation like the rest of the economy. By the time the economy turns around and cargo picks back up I will be so far out of currency that I wouldn't stand a chance of getting a job, that be about a year from now.