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Mesaba also. 13 people flowed up, which opens 13 spots for people to flow down into.Anyone else read the details regarding flow-downs. Just Compass right?
The Saab CASM is much better than either of these airframes. The Saabs a money-maker, always has been.Also retaking the 34 seat Saab flying should be a goal but it's definitely not where we would start. Once again, in recapturing some of our flying, we would start where the money is. This is on the larger aircraft(EMBs and CRJ-900).
Mesaba also. 13 people flowed up, which opens 13 spots for people to flow down into.
MM is upset because there are people here at XJ that have been trying to get on with NW (DAL w/NW domiciles) for not years, but decades. More senior to 9E, more senior to CPZ, and most likely more senior to the majority of DCI carriers. To staple CPZ would be a disservice to all that have been working in traditional ways to work at NW/DAL. I understand CPZ's claim, due to the one union, but then again aren't we all one union. Yet another testiment to why we need a national seniority list.
It was MSA's unwillingness to work with NWA/NWA ALPA which forced the creation of CPZ. NWA would have happily placed the 175's on the MSA certificate if they had scope relief from NWA ALPA. NWA ALPA wouldn't give it because MSA ALPA wouldn't sign off on unlimited flowback to these seats. Thus, CPZ was created. NWA ALPA allowed the scope relief being NWA pilots had 100% flowback rights to these seats. MSA wanted the jets with no risk. CPZ pilots stepped up knowing the risks. This is why they are in a better position to be absorbed by mainline than MSA. (WARNING...next opinion only--shared by many) MSA pilots were short sighted as they wanted all the 76 seat flying for themselves if they got the jets--wouldn't allow for unlimited flowback.
There are great threads from 2005(?) on this very subject if anyone cares to do the digging.
Schwanker
It was MSA's unwillingness to work with NWA/NWA ALPA which forced the creation of CPZ. NWA would have happily placed the 175's on the MSA certificate if they had scope relief from NWA ALPA. NWA ALPA wouldn't give it because MSA ALPA wouldn't sign off on unlimited flowback to these seats. Thus, CPZ was created. NWA ALPA allowed the scope relief being NWA pilots had 100% flowback rights to these seats. MSA wanted the jets with no risk. CPZ pilots stepped up knowing the risks. This is why they are in a better position to be absorbed by mainline than MSA. (WARNING...next opinion only--shared by many) MSA pilots were short sighted as they wanted all the 76 seat flying for themselves if they got the jets--wouldn't allow for unlimited flowback.
There are great threads from 2005(?) on this very subject if anyone cares to do the digging.
Schwanker
Compass pilots didn't exist at the time to step up. If you mean later after its creation, most all of them were loosing there job somewhere else.