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What will become of the ABX Air over the next few months? How does DHL ceasing ops effect ABX? Will Astar stop operating at the same time as DHL? How does one effect another? It's all as clear as mud right now.
I am writing a paper and trying to piece the whole ABX family tree together and I am missing pieces.
I did look on the ABX Air web site and it's history link, but had minimum results.
Good luck to the whole group there.
Thanks for the help.
 
Okay, since my other post was moved by the moderators (no problem there) I'm going to hijack this conversation to address a concern of one of the Astar pilots who left this message for me before it was deleted when my thread was moved.

(Of course if you think about it, this is kinda relative to the subject title... <g>)

Mr. DC8Criver writes:

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Soooo,

Trixxie rears her ignorant head again after all these months.

Yep. We're still waiting for an apology for your slander Trix.

You know, the professional airline pilot has to undergo so many recurrent classes covering such a wide variety of subjects these days that maybe you have forgotten your most recent CRM (or TRM or whatever ABX calls their "charm school") training. Too bad, really. Those classes provide what amounts to the foundation of what a real professional pilot builds their career upon. Communication, honesty, self evaluation, respect, integrity, decision making, leadership, and factual knowledge are but a few of the earmarks of a true professional pilot.

Your actions and words on all of these professional pilot boards show none of these traits.

Face it. You either made a very slanderous remark on purpose and continue to defend it, or you made a mistake and won't admit it. Either way you were wrong, Trix.

If you are truly a professional pilot, you should be able to recognize the facts at this point and admit an error in judgement or admit a mistake.

If you can't do either one of these basic and fundamentally critical admissions, you have no business posting on a professional pilot message board - or for that matter - ever setting foot in the cockpit of an airplane.

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My dearest Mr. DC8CRIVER (and I'll include Mr. Hvy in this one, too),

I'm going to give you two something else to b*t*h about now....You know, since you two can't seem to let go of the other topic of conversation, let's see how you respond to THIS one:

Let's "discuss" a certain conversation between Astar managment, Alpo (err, I mean Alpa) and DHL regarding keeping the flying with Astar only. Remember that conversation? Either one of you? Especially you, Hvy.... No? I'm guessing neither of you will own up to it - not surprised there, heh. I'm talking about a certain message board conversation on this board, and certain posts made by "FODC8" that were removed from this very board.

Does any of this ring a bell? Hmm??

Well, allow me to refresh your memory. Astar, et al, was trying to work out a little back-door deal for secured flying - of course at the expense of the ABX Air pilot group (talk about not playing nice now - shame, shame!). One of your own (FODC8) even ACKNOWLEDGED this on the message board. Hmmm, it seems that this caused some major "poo" to hit the fan on a certain Astar web board, and "poof" those messages posted by "FODC8" magically disappeared from the FI board.

Explanations for this one?? Please enlighten us. :)

Oh yeah, about that "charm school" - obviously you seem to be a bit confused - when I'm posting on this message board, I'm not IN the cockpit. But, hey, since my charm is of such great concern to you, please know that I am able to turn on the ol' Trixie charm when needed and/or necessary, so no need to worry about me... 'k? <bg> And while we're talking about "charm school" (and fwiw, it's CRM at ABX) I think your griping to me about MY lack of charm is equivalent to the pot calling the kettle black. So, get off your friggin' high horse.

Well, I'm outta here... And guess what? NO FRIGGIN' APOLOGY!!!! HA!!!

Heh, I'll close with this thought (image).... I'm sitting here picturing a few certain Astar crews sitting around the crew room, all the lights are out, crickets are chirping - everybody has already left the place 'cause DHL has already shut down the place... But there those few sit... waiting for my apology. <sigh> Hey, could someone that lives in or near ILN go by and dust the cobwebs off those dudes every now and then? Thanks! :)

(Oh, and DC8, I'm still laughing at YOU, of all people, telling me that I have no business posting on a "professional" message board. I'll tell ya what, why don't you, Hvy and me meet somewhere in the 'Boro for a brewski and talk about it in person rather than on a message board. But beware, I can be even more charming in person. <eg>)
 
>Let's "discuss" a certain conversation between Astar managment, Alpo (err, I mean Alpa) and DHL regarding keeping the flying with Astar only. Remember that conversation? Either one of you? Especially you, Hvy.... No? I'm guessing neither of you will own up to it - not surprised there, heh. I'm talking about a certain message board conversation on this board, and certain posts made by "FODC8" that were removed from this very board.<

Why wouldn't anyone own up to a conversation that occured on this board, Trixie? Astar, as well as ABX as businesses have both attempted (and probably still are as we speak should the UPS deal fail to materialize) to get DHL to go with their airline only. That's not in dispute. What is in dispute is your inability to acknowledge an error. And as usual instead of owning up to it and gaining some respect back, you have a hissy fit and try to change the topic of conversation to something that was beaten to death long ago. Pitiful. You don't think you did anything wrong. Circle U on judgement then.
 
Talk about how they wouldn't let it go? I was with you, on the last attack coming back after all this time, right up untill you highjacked this thread to get in the last word. I hope this garbage doesn't get put into the OP's research.
 
Y'all....really.....don't waste your time on Trixie. Split personality. Seriously. He11, she doesn't know if she's goin or comin. Just wish her the best and move on. She's the minority at 1224.
 
Bad Form Trix

Bad form all around Trix. As I've said before, it's unfortunate that your actions ( and continued inactions ) have stained your entire group.
I would hope that your decision making process is better in the cockpit where ones actions and decisions could mean the ultimate difference.

It takes courage to admit to ones mistakes. It should distress all that share a cockpit with you that this is a quality that is found lacking in you.

FAJ
 
Y'all....really.....don't waste your time on Trixie. Split personality. Seriously. He11, she doesn't know if she's goin or comin. Just wish her the best and move on. She's the minority at 1224.

True AV8OR... true.
 
Thanks for the laugh guys.... You have put a big smile on my face this morning. :) LOL
 

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