What now for Mesaba?

[OttoPilot]

Heard today that JR (DO) and DW (CP) came throught the Training Department and told the FTIs to expect to be "forlughed." Mesaba like to use the "F word" when it sends all of its union instructors back to the line. This could be ugly as there are numberous instructors with phantoms awards on the 900.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Not likely that most would be at risk of furlough. Perhaps being releaved of their instructing position and returned to whatever phantom position they hold to fly the line again but most FTI's are quite senior (to the point that we could pull all the jets and they'd still not get furloughed).

 

[Baronman]

You don't know who is the "cheapest." That's the thing. ASA may have submitted the lowest bid to fly those aircraft, in which case they may make the smallest margin or loss to fly them. What the pilots take home and what the company charges to fly the aircraft are independent.

 

[Texx]

It's my understanding that it's not about whipsawing. It's all about the bottom line. The flying recently awarded went to the lowest bidder with conditions that most regionals couldnt live with and walked away from the table. Maybe it's the desperate that's taking the flying and I'm not refering to the ASA award.

And why were the 900s removed from Freedom? The lowest cost of all DCI.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

"forlughed."... numberous...

Hopefully there won't be numberous forlughes.

 

[OttoPilot]

Hopefully there won't be numberous forlughes.

Apparently, numerous Captains. If you know what I mean.

 

[Ridgeback]

With al the tak on this thread about the "cheapest."

How much does mesaba cost, ASA, Comair, ect...

Yea, I didn't think you knew....

 

[sweptback]

ASA has the right to match the lowest bid for any new flying in ATL.

 

[Seaknight1]

ASA has the right to match the lowest bid for any new flying in ATL.

Was this a bid or an award? Does that include SLC as well or is that just for SkyWest?

 

[One Wing Low]

Wasnt there something in the latest agreement with Comair that said Comair was garunteed a certain percentage of new DCI flying? What happened there?

 

[RiddleEagle18]

Wasnt there something in the latest agreement with Comair that said Comair was garunteed a certain percentage of new DCI flying? What happened there?

None of this is "new" flying. It was all previously awarded to freedom. Delta sees this as a reallocation not an award.

 

[flyboyike]

Wasnt there something in the latest agreement with Comair that said Comair was garunteed a certain percentage of new DCI flying? What happened there?

Even if there were such a guarantee, it's not like Delta would honor it. They don't honor anything else, goodness knows.

 

[Tarzan]

Really?

I don't remember ANY gloating. But then again your post could be read in that light now, couldn't it?

Really?

yaaaaaaaaaaay!

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Well it looks as if Mesaba is the first safe regional...

The only question is how big will they get?

Saabs will be in ATL soon

Mesaba also was in the early stages of getting the ATR-72-600 for NorthWest...

 

[Tarzan]

Wasn't there something in the latest agreement with Comair that said Comair was guaranteed a certain percentage of new DCI flying? What happened there?

There lies the rub when it comes to being wholly owned. The question becomes, "Is Delta going to sue itself if it breaks the agreement?"

 

[CptMurf]

No different than these...

ASA finally gets some 900s, too bad they have to park 20 200s

but the 1st of 20 isn't leaving until 2010...have a feeling those at ASA are safe.

Told ya'.....damn its tough being right all the time.....

Except these are not XJ guys. Interesting they both use the "safe' word.

No gloating. In tough times you have to look out for you and yours. To wipe your brow and have a false since of security when you get good news is inevitable. Maybe they shouldn't have expressed their relief on a forum thread, but don't globally bash a pilot group for a few individual comments.