You gotta wonder about our NWA Cargo 742s.....

[dispatchguy]

ALL of the NWA/DAL Route authorities have been merged...

http://tinyurl.com/8czypx

 

[Schwanker]

Let's hope they stick around for a very long time. I thought cargo was a money maker. Don't they need half the load factor, 180lbs of goods, to produce the same profit, one pax. If they do decide to park them, hopefully they will do that before SOC.

It would be better after SOC so these guys have more options to displace into.

Schwanker

 

[Scope out RJ's]

It would be better after SOC so these guys have more options to displace into.

:uzi: Schwanker

Lighting the flames of fire.....................................

 

[jetjockey#1]

It would be better after SOC so these guys have more options to displace into.

Schwanker

Please, let's don't start again. Let's all hope if, hopefully not, pilots are to be furloughed, the company would do it pre SOC from EITHER COMPANY. Is that better?

Let's keep the positive thinking going, and hope the analysts are right this time. 2nd quarter 09 we're expected to show a profit.

 

[AC560]

Trust me, I want them to stick around. The potential problem is the 747-200F. UPS just parked their last 2 742s in ROW yesterday, along with an Atlas 742. Kalitta is parking 8 of their 20 747s. I hope there isn't a trend

Air cargo out of Asia is almost entirely driven by retail (mostly garments). So as that market goes so goes the freighter market. Couple that with CNY coming up now it is going to be slow going till middle of 09. I will make an infamous FI prediction that the cargo markets out of Asia bottom at CNY and start back up from there.

I do not see ANC being around. Most of the cargo can be done point to point with out the ANC base. That is just a guess.

It makes an effective hub/spoke for the USA freighters, the Asian carriers use it less and less though. I wouldn't write it off just yet.

 

[Gripen]

We are starting ANC-ATL-ANC in Feb for the 747F...

 

[propdog]

Ditto on the ANC-ATL flying. Rumour is that they are looking at South America from ATL. With Kalitta, Atlas, Singapore, Cathay etc reducing schedules across the Pacific, it has made it a little easier for NWA cargo to survive there as well.

 

[clippyrip]

We are starting ANC-ATL-ANC in Feb for the 747F...

That is a good sign.

 

[FBN0223]

Ditto on the ANC-ATL flying. Rumour is that they are looking at South America from ATL. With Kalitta, Atlas, Singapore, Cathay etc reducing schedules across the Pacific, it has made it a little easier for NWA cargo to survive there as well.

Kalitta doesn't reduce their schedule. The company they are flying for, usually a Singapore, NWA or Cathay, reduces their schedule for them. In other words, they fly other companies' freight.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

We are starting ANC-ATL-ANC in Feb for the 747F...

I have not had time to look, but does the size of the jet on the passenger flight change. They may be freeing up a 400 to go do the mods on.

 

[Gripen]

Pardon me, but I am a little slow...

I have not had time to look, but does the size of the jet on the passenger flight change. They may be freeing up a 400 to go do the mods on.

I don't get the question???? 747F is a freighter, what 400 mod are you asking about? Pax => Freighter???

Sorry if I am just fatigued, I haven't flown for a month and the family is wearing me out

 

[ACL65PILOT]

They will use the freighter for the extra lift that the 400 has for cargo. This allows them a smaller gauge aircraft to do the passenger side of the ops.

 

[Gripen]

They will use the freighter for the extra lift that the 400 has for cargo. This allows them a smaller gauge aircraft to do the passenger side of the ops.

Ok got some sleep, maybe I can comprehend this now... No, I still don't get it (must be the single digit temperatures outside freezing my brain cells), are you saying that we are running 400's ANC-ATL-ANC now? If not what does FDL run on this route now, if anything?

Sorry for being so dense, just bored at home at the moment...

 

[ACL65PILOT]

In the summer months we fly a 767-400 up there. In the winter the service is from SLC. What I was asking was if the 767-400 service will be on an ER or a 767. If so they are shrinking the cargo capacity on the passenger flights.
I am just to lazy to look it up.

 

[Sedona16]

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090105/BIZ/901050331

 

[Gripen]

In the summer months we fly a 767-400 up there. In the winter the service is from SLC. What I was asking was if the 767-400 service will be on an ER or a 767. If so they are shrinking the cargo capacity on the passenger flights.
I am just to lazy to look it up.

:blush: Ok, I finally get it... I have no idea, I can barely keep track of the NWA side of Delta, and to top it off we just got access to the "real" DeltaNet so alot of info to digest. Good luck with your just announced AE.