PFT'er damages A-320

[MJ42]

A little of both, but even I know there lines you don't cross, kinda like being a ______, you fill in the blank. I don't care how many hail marys he says, for him to come and preach, smacks of hypocrisy. He can spend the rest of his life doing "The right thing", and thats fine, do it quietly. Pilots who think its ok to step to the front of the line because their credit rating will allow it do something far worse to the profession then being selfish. They enable the process to perpetuate the problems that we are all experiencing. There is not a point where you start doing the right thing, its organic. Don't preach to me, lecture PCL, he is the one with values issues.
PBR

To add to your comment...

Chickensled, PCL may be a good guy(in your eyes), but what he did is selfish. Didn't he ever discuss with you why it was a bad idea to PFT? He always says on FI it was a poor decision that he regrets. It's scary to think there are guys like you who still think it's acceptable, after all, you could have been in your position 2 years earlier if you stepped on some backs along the way. Hell, if I PFTed, I could have been at Delta for 12 years instead of being junior. I chose the honest and respectable way.

You obviously were not a person who was hurt by PFTers. I could have jumped thousands of numbers, but have too much respect to damage the profession in that manner. Instead, I Flight Instructed, flew 135 night freight then went into the ANG. My career was derailed by 9/11(as were many), but I was able to overcome the setback. I'm proud of my career path, can PCL say the same? He obviously has regrets about PFT and, at least now sees the harm. PBR is right, he has no room to preach!

 

[hecbir]

what did you talk you all the info about your pilot licence medical atc tapes is of public dormain

 

[AiRegency]

what did you talk you all the info about your pilot licence medical atc tapes is of public dormain

English is a second language to you isn't it. Normally I can see past spelling and grammatical errors enough to at least understand the sentence but, damn, I don't have a clue as to what you're trying to say.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

what did you talk you all the info about your pilot licence medical atc tapes is of public dormain

With close to one week to go in the year, we have a serious contender for "Most Painful Post to Read -2008."

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

what did you talk you all the info about your pilot licence medical atc tapes is of public dormain

Holy crap...

Well, welcome to America. I think.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

what did you talk you all the info about your pilot licence medical atc tapes is of public dormain

Huh?......

Jiveman1: Sheeeet, man, that honkey mus' be messin' my old lady got to be runnin' col' upsihd down his head!
(GOLLY, THAT WHITE FELLOW SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM MY WIFE OR I WILL PUNCH HIM.)

Jiveman2: Hey Holm, I can dig it! You know he ain't gonna lay no mo' big rap upon you man! (YES, HE IS WRONG FOR DOING THAT.)

Jiveman1: I say hey sky, s'other say I won say I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. (I KNEW A MAN IN A SIMILAR PREDICAMENT, AND HE ENDED UP BEING SORRY.)

Jiveman2: Knock yourself a pro slick. Gray matter back got perform' us' down I take TCBin, man'.
(DON'T BE NAIVE ARTHUR. EACH OF US FACES A CLEAR MORAL CHOICE.)

Jiveman1: You know wha' they say: See a broad to get that bodiac lay'er down an' smack 'em yack 'em.
(EARLY TO BED, EARLY TO RISE, MAKES A MAN HEALTHY, WEALTHY AND WISE.)

Together: Col' got to be! Yo!
(HOW TRUE!)

Together: Sheeeeeeet!
(GOLLY.)

 

[Amish RakeFight]

ACARS:

FKN.300.HR.MALAKAS.DSTRYS.A320.

 

[ALIMBO]

Being Greek I understand that quite well lol.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Being Greek I understand that quite well lol.

LOL. I was wondering if anyone knew what I wrote. No offense of course! :beer:

My good friend growing up was Greek. He had a 15 letter last name too. The father was an outstanding cook and I treasured my dinners when we hung out at his house.

 

[Flyer1015]

Years of spew, he is the most infamous PFTer on the internet. He thinks by being a born again unionista will absolve him of past folly. Those on here "old school" types who did it the hard way, resent using ones parents retirement fund/credit rating to buy a job, thus perpetuating the PFT syndrome.
PBR

You people need to get over yourselves. Put the whole Gulfstream thing aside, PCL_128 is a CFI/I and taught students before getting hired on at Pinnacle. He wasn't some 250-500 hr hire at Pinnacle through Gulfstream.

Judge a man by his character, he's a good guy. He spent countless hours putting up with Pinnacle management's sh*t and protecting pilots during carpet dances. I respect him for that.

 

[Flyer1015]

but have too much respect to damage the profession in that manner.

Just FYI, the profession is already damaged and disrespected upon. Regardless of your efforts. Blame oil, corrupt and greedy management, incompetence leaders, etc.

Instead, I Flight Instructed, flew 135 night freight then went into the ANG. My career was derailed by 9/11(as were many), but I was able to overcome the setback. I'm proud of my career path, can PCL say the same?

I'll let him speak for himself, but like you, he flight instructed many students before coming to Pinnacle.

 

[MJ42]

Just FYI, the profession is already damaged and disrespected upon. Regardless of your efforts. Blame oil, corrupt and greedy management, incompetence leaders, etc. I agree, but those PFT participants hurt your fellow pilots. Is there any wonder why we don't have unity in this profession?



I'll let him speak for himself, but like you, he flight instructed many students before coming to Pinnacle.

You mentioned character, doesn't past poor decision making show questionable character? There were very few jobs back then, even less than now. Regional airlines knew they could take advantage of those with money and questionable character(mainly because managements character was questionable too.) He chose the wrong route and now realizes it. My only problem with him is he likes to lecture a lot, knowing full well his past lack of judgement.

I couldn't care less about those PFTers now. However, when people forget about how this hurt the industry, I like to remind them. Times are tough now, management could easily start up PFT again. There is always someone wiling to pay, after all, if they sold someone on how they can get ahead(like chickensled thought) they will get a ton of suckers to cough up the money.

Again, my only problem is that he is extremely opinionated and alway right(in his mind). He is quick to criticize when someone disagrees. I just (gently) remind him he's not perfect either. And, not to forget, he's not even ALPA anymore.

P.S. JoeM is the same way, just the other extreme.

 

[TheInsider]

How many read the entire PDF file?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Geeez. How long is PCL gonna get thrown under the PFT bus around here.

 

[Nindiri]

If I had the money and opportunity to advance my career by PFT back in those days, I would have done it in a heartbeat. Intentionally delaying your career by several years and losing several hundred thousand dollars off the end of your career is kind of stupid.