Au revoir ATR.....

[JoeMerchant]

After 14 years and 10,000 hours....I set the parking brake for the last time on my ATR....I walked away with a tear in my eye....She will be missed....

Now if I could just muster up some SJS....but I can't seem to get any SJS.....

Who would have ever thought I would miss anything from France....

:beer:

 

[USCtrojan]

After 14 years and 10,000 hours....I set the parking brake for the last time on my ATR....She will be missed....

Now if I could just muster up some SJS....but I can't seem to get any SJS.....

Who would have ever thought I would miss anything from France....

:beer:

It has a face only a mother could love. I wish we weren't getting rid of it Joe, you're gonna bump me back. :beer:

Trojan

 

[WalterSobchak]

Joe, don't know ya...but I know how fond you are of that big beast. Here's to hoping you can learn to like flying the CRJ one-eighth as much as you seem to have enjoyed flying the ATR...

:beer:

 

[Sig]

Met the guy that bought most of them. They will be worked by ex-pats, and he was a class act himself.

I'm NOT looking forward to the same situation- ie, there isn't a backup type my airline flies to acclimate to....

 

[Salukipilot4590]

I really wish I could have flown one at some point in my life...

 

[Abernathy]

Those were some good times on the ATR. Looks like the last flight's scheduled to come in from PFN this evening.

 

[C425Driver]

Now if I could just muster up some SJS....but I can't seem to get any SJS.....

No SJS, Joe? All you need to do is spike your hair, put on some pretty-boy wide-framed shades, and strut through the terminal wearing your iPod and a backpack and you should have instant SJS.

 

[rf285]

It was my favorite aircraft at ASA while I was there. Beats the barbie jet anyday of of the week. Very comfortable cockpit. Sad to see it go.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Joe,

Having an APU blowing cold air in your face next summer should help ease the transition.

....and don't forget the "250 Below 10 Rule" comes into play now.

Cheers to the ATR. :beer:

 

[Tarzan]

No more Shaggin Wagon.

 

[PooPooPants]

Joe, although I never flew the ATR I have been a member of the PTCOA (prop trash club of America) and can feel your pain. The RJ grows on you and given some time it will make you lazy. The FMS is great, learn it well because remember garbage in is garbage out. I hope you guys that are coming over to the 50 can bring some ATR style with you, I was always jealous of the stories!

 

[Scope out RJ's]

I'm still waiting for this to be somehow blamed on ALPA or the Delta pilots...

 

[Stifler's Mom]

The RJ grows on you and given some time it will make you lazy. The FMS is great, learn it well because remember garbage in is garbage out.

Just wait until the FMS is deferred. You're going to be glad you flew the ATR. Green Needles!!!!!!!!!

You should see the look on the faces of some of the FOs I fly with that have never experienced flying the RJ without the FMS. ---->

The MEL should mandate an ex ATR pilot as part of the crew for those flights.

 

[PooPooPants]

Just wait until the FMS is deferred.
You should see the look on the faces of some of the FOs I fly with that have never experienced flying the RJ without the FMS. ---->

Probably the same look that was on my face as a Captain when my FMS was deferred. I had to go digging through my flight case to find my High/Low charts and blow off the dust. Wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, kinda made me feel like a real pilot again!

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

I always will have a special spot in my heart for the ATR... It was my first "big" airplane (TSA in the late '90s). Gotta love an airplane where the word "wild" refers to the electrical system!

The ATR certianly eased my transistion to the airline world... Those trailing link gear made even my landings look good! Now, if I could just figure out the Dash 8!

Anyhow, good luck guys. Au Revoir Frenchie!

 

[Tim47SIP]

You should see the look on the faces of some of the FOs I fly with that have never experienced flying the RJ without the FMS. ---->

That is nothing compaired to the look on the CA's face in the 70 over 4 courners enroute to Oakland, Ca. I just drew a line on the High Alt to the arrival fix and cross checked the radial/DME and walla, majic. That is how we did it on the mil aircraft I was flying. The guy I flew with was absolutely dumbfounded as he wanted to declare an emergency. When we got into Oakland, we told the new crew that the FMF was differred and they refused to take the aircraft and cancelled the flight. Panzies!

On the ATR note, I flew 1200 in the beast and loved every minute of it. It fly's like my Cherokee Six and was just great aircraft. I had a blast with the old crews, the Flemmings , and even Joe. The 70 was fun but the ATR trips were the best.

 

[JumpersAway]

I'm still waiting for this to be somehow blamed on ALPA or the Delta pilots...

Is Moak keeping tabs on the shrinking of Comair and the growing of a cheaper Mesaba? Just curious, since they are both wholy owneds.

 

[clarkwgriswald]

Is Moak keeping tabs on the shrinking of Comair and the growing of a cheaper Mesaba? Just curious, since they are both wholy owneds.

He's probably enjoying watching it happen.

 

[DGdaPilot]

I really wish I could have flown one at some point in my life...

Everyone keeps saying that Eagle will hire in the spring.

 

[CFI2766]

I had a blast with the old crews, the Flemmings , and even Joe. The 70 was fun but the ATR trips were the best.[/quote]

Flemming was my sim partner for the transition.

To the suprise of the RJ instructors, who all seemed to regard him as a living legend, he did really well. He programmed the FMS with no problems, and aced his oral and checkride. He worked his butt off, and he was a great sim partner to have. He can fly.

One more thing: The jet training guys were good. We got off to a shaky start with one of the DGS ground school guys who knew nothing about the airplane, but all of the actual ASA employees that we interacted with were great. I'm afraid that I'm not going to have realistic expectations if I ever go through training somewhere other than ASA. Both of my major training events at ASA have been quality experiences.

 

[DX Rick]

I'll miss seeing them when in ATL. Love the looks of them. We need more props out there at the regional level.
Enough of this 3-4 hour legs in the RJ. But Asscarpes Delta keeps handing down thier flying to us lowly regionals.

 

[buscap]

Joe,

I can't think of anyone more qualified than you, to helps us fight the defered-apu battle next spring.

Just ask TD about it. I hear he took an oath to never do it again.

RJ life is just fine, but your ass is not gonna like crawling in and out of the cockpit.

And please don't write up the engines because there isn't oil on the cowl. It's supposed to be that way.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Joe,

I can't think of anyone more qualified than you, to helps us fight the defered-apu battle next spring.

Just ask TD about it. I hear he took an oath to never do it again.

RJ life is just fine, but your ass is not gonna like crawling in and out of the cockpit.

And please don't write up the engines because there isn't oil on the cowl. It's supposed to be that way.

I understand the defered APU battle...I did it with PACKS on the ATR...My personal opinion now is that this isn't the time to pick that fight.....

The ATR was hot June, July, and August...even with both PACKS....hotter than an RJ w/o an APU......It's time to ensure our survival.....Put the swords away.....

 

[buscap]

You'll see...no apu RJ hotter than no pack ATR.

(No recirc fans, cockpit full of hot tubes)

Got both t-shirts.

But just the same, you'll have fun on the jet.

 

[JoeMerchant]

You'll see...no apu RJ hotter than no pack ATR.

(No recirc fans, cockpit full of hot tubes)

Got both t-shirts.

But just the same, you'll have fun on the jet.

I've never had very good cooling on the ground at ASA.....Bandit and ATR.....Air carts in July just push 90 degree air around.....

If I think safety...real safety....is in question....I will refuse.....If it is comfort only....now is not the time to fight that battle.....

 

[sweptback]

I've never had very good cooling on the ground at ASA.....Bandit and ATR.....Air carts in July just push 90 degree air around.....

At least you have some moving air. 90 degree air with a bit of a breeze is better than 90 degree air with no movement.

The stupidest thing they did was not put recirc fans in the 200. Well, they did a lot of stupid things with the 200. But that's one of them.

 

[JoeMerchant]

At least you have some moving air. 90 degree air with a bit of a breeze is better than 90 degree air with no movement.

The stupidest thing they did was not put recirc fans in the 200. Well, they did a lot of stupid things with the 200. But that's one of them.

The 50 seater was rushed out the door because of the scope clauses....50 seats was the limit...Many problems with that aircraft...

I sat on a Bahamas Air DH8 in PBI without any power on it....It was hot...but everyone survived.....The Bahamians didn't care....

Not arguing with you...but now isn't the time to hurt our numbers....It will only hurt us....

 

[PCL_128]

Believe me, Joey, it's a safety issue in the 50-seater. It doesn't even have a recirc fan, so air just sits still in that tiny little tube while you wait in line with the sun beating on you. There are plenty of cases of heat stroke involving deferred APUs on RJs. I always refused to take them if it was warmer than 85 degrees outside.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Believe me, Joey, it's a safety issue in the 50-seater. It doesn't even have a recirc fan, so air just sits still in that tiny little tube while you wait in line with the sun beating on you. There are plenty of cases of heat stroke involving deferred APUs on RJs. I always refused to take them if it was warmer than 85 degrees outside.

I understand that....ATR's are just plain hot in the summer period....plenty of heat issues on that aircraft without anything defered.....

It is also an issue of reliability and surviving the portfolio whipsaw.....I don't like the competition within a brand...but it is what it is at this point.....

I will help keep the numbers up....

Any of you been in Vegas in July....It's hot.....

 

[PCL_128]

Safety should come before performance numbers.