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Nah, I agree with the original poster.

Bottom line: in an environment with RIFs, NASA reports, and especially ASAP reports, step on your FO enough, and really bad things can happen to your career.


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Let me answer that with the same statement your creepy uncle used when you were 5..."who do you think they'll believe?...me or you?"

Bring it sonny!
 
Let me answer that with the same statement your creepy uncle used when you were 5..."who do you think they'll believe?...me or you?"

Bring it sonny![/quote]


Your reading comprehension isn't that great, is it?

I'll guess that whenever you are the PIC of anything, the most dangerous malfunction on the A/C is the crack in the left seat... :rolleyes:
 
If you were a captain then you could dictate all of the above...however, you're not...so,

1. You ARE the captain's FO. Whether you're the FA's FO is up to you (after the captain has "dibs").
2. The captain calls for the checklist when he wants it...maybe he calls early anticipating that by the time YOU are ready, he will be!
3. Why aren't YOU keeping the bug centered? That's professionalism, and at our carrier, SOP.
4. Have you told the captain that you are a godless pagan with no children, or are you just hoping he'll see this and you won't have to grow a set and speak up?
5. The entire airplane is the captain's while his/her name is in the book...the chart bag placement is his/her call...maybe he/she wants you to trip over it and sprain your ankle so he/she can get an FO whose easier to be around.
6. The question would be, if you ever flew with me..."are you wearing a cup"? 'cause I'd have kicked you in the stones well before item #6!
Classic!

My main problem with the original poster is, he seems to be a very bitter employee, with poor communication skills. Is that the kind of guy you want up front safeguarding your wife and kids in the back? Sure, we all have a few pet peeves, but jeez, speak up if you really have a problem with something! In multiple CRM studies, the best and safest crews were ones that communicated well with each other. Better yet, just do it the way the captain wants it, with a smile on your face, unless it's unsafe or not SOP. We've all done it, welcome to the right seat. Can't we all just be professionals?!?
 
FO's:

Start the checklist before it is requested.

No "checklist complete" callout.

Recite checklist from memory without actually ever touching the paper.

Retract flaps prior to clearing the runway.

Perform SOP tasks assigned to other pilot.

Reconfigure systems and/or aircraft without advising the other pilot.

Landing way long and way slow seeking the elusive "greaser."

Being smug about the "better" landings because the CA would rather land on speed in the touchdown zone than grease it on way long and way slow.

General complacency based on status as "two year FO."

CA:

Dogmatic insistence on SOP compliance.

Unnecessary callouts, such as "Ref minus 10, 4000 feet remaining."

Countermanding impulsive decisions/actions.

Attempting to "instruct."

Doing things slowly
 
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...FO's:

Retract flaps prior to clearing the runway...

I don't usually get in on these threads, but I gotta agree on that one.

At my airline (yup, it's not just "my" fo it's my airline too ;) ) a number of the FO's, through no fault of their own in many cases, are positively obsessed with the gust lock and are often reaching for the damn thing as soon as the mains are down. Has to be the most annoying and retarded thing I've ever seen in an airplane.
 
Hey Raskal, are you referring to our flight back into DTW yesterday evening?? ;) I pull the gust lock whenever the captain wants me to, but yes I agree that it is totally retarded to pull it at all when still on the runway, but you would be surprised at how many captains willingly give up their rudder authority at 60 plus knots
 
FO's:

Start the checklist before it is requested.

No "checklist complete" callout.

Recite checklist from memory without actually ever touching the paper.

Retract flaps prior to clearing the runway.

Perform SOP tasks assigned to other pilot.

Reconfigure systems and/or aircraft without advising the other pilot.

Landing way long and way slow seeking the elusive "greaser."

Being smug about the "better" landings because the CA would rather land on speed in the touchdown zone than grease it on way long and way slow.

General complacency based on status as "two year FO."

CA:

Dogmatic insistence on SOP compliance.

Unnecessary callouts, such as "Ref minus 10, 4000 feet remaining."

Countermanding impulsive decisions/actions.

Attempting to "instruct."

Doing things slowly


You forgot some:
F/O's:

When we are an hour late,don't sit on your azz after we get on the gate texting on your crackberry for 15 minutes.If the pax are boarded and you still haven't done your walk-around ,that's not good.

In the same vein:When we're trying to get back on sched,don't show up 20 minutes after you left to do your walk around with stuff from Villa Pizza.

Don't take it personally when I wonder why you land in the middle of an 11,000' runway and we make the last turn off.You're just incompetent.

I know you were the shiznit at "the academy",but when you're still at 8,000 feet on the downwind,descending at 500' FPM at 250 kts.,maybe you should wonder why the controller seems concerned when he says "expect a base turn in one mile".


I know it's a big step up from a Seminole,but this airplane has a "yoke",and it works the same way.I know-insane ! So if looks like you're not gonna make a crossing restriction,you can actually FLY THE AIRPLANE instead of twisting knobs and punching buttons!

When we're closed up 15 early,do not let off the parking brake while I'm making my PA.Where did you get the idea you can even touch the parking brake,anyway ?

No-hair gel and backpacks and Livestrong bracelets are not covered by your uniform allowance.

This is from actual experience.Except that last one.
 
Hey Raskal, are you referring to our flight back into DTW yesterday evening?? ;) I pull the gust lock whenever the captain wants me to, but yes I agree that it is totally retarded to pull it at all when still on the runway, but you would be surprised at how many captains willingly give up their rudder authority at 60 plus knots

LOL, of course not! As I mentioned, in most cases it really isn't the FO's fault-it's what they were conditioned to do by other guys...

Enjoying one of your 38 days off this month?
 

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