Compass

[NEWSOUTH]

Your post there is very difficult to understand. The words are really confusing.

But basically all I mean is exactly what I said in your quote of me.

Compass pilots don't like the fact that they are flying routes that used to be DC-9 flights (just like most other contract pilots [SkyWest, Mesa, ExpressJet, etc.] don't either). It represents a better career job (major airline) gone forever. BUT, they have no control over it. They weren't the ones that changed the scope at mainline.

If you don't understand that, I don't know how else to say it.

Ok, but you were the one that referenced the B.K.

I mean, the rest of those carriers you referenced obtained that flying because NWA MEC sold that flying to enhance the benefits of the senior pilots (ALPA EATS IT's YOUNG). However, Compass obtained their flying because of the B.K. Therefore,
how could you act as if you wish that flying was mainline? I mean, you would have never received that flying if it was not for the B.K. Therefore, you would have never been employed to start with, had it not been for the B.K. That is how Compass was formed to begin with. So how can you blame the B.K. mess for causing your job to be a non-mainline job that should be mainline flying. It was B.K. that created your job to begin with. Please explain what you have in mind. What do you want from NWA?

 

[DrewBlows]

Ok, but you were the one that referenced the B.K.

I mean, the rest of those carriers you referenced obtained that flying because NWA MEC sold that flying to enhance the benefits of the senior pilots (ALPA EATS IT's YOUNG). However, Compass obtained their flying because of the B.K. Therefore,
how could you act as if you wish that flying was mainline? I mean, you would have never received that flying if it was not for the B.K. Therefore, you would have never been employed to start with, had it not been for the B.K. That is how Compass was formed to begin with. So how can you blame the B.K. mess for causing your job to be a non-mainline job that should be mainline flying. It was B.K. that created your job to begin with. Please explain what you have in mind. What do you want from NWA?

You are making it more complicated than it is. Compass pilots would rather be flying for NWA because it would be a better job. I'm not sure why bankruptcy is relevant to the conversation. Compass was created without input from Compass pilots. If we had been involved in the process of creating the company we'd have chosen to put the airplanes at NWA. It's pretty simple.

 

[DYLIN]

You are making it more complicated than it is. Compass pilots would rather be flying for NWA because it would be a better job. I'm not sure why bankruptcy is relevant to the conversation. Compass was created without input from Compass pilots. If we had been involved in the process of creating the company we'd have chosen to put the airplanes at NWA. It's pretty simple.

He's making it more complicated than it is because he's a buffoon.

Just read a bunch of his other posts to see that he goes from thread to thread starting fights. Credibility is gone; I would not have replied if I had already read the other stuff.

I explained it twice simple enough for a third grader to understand. Then you did it again. He still won't get it!

 

[NEWSOUTH]

You are making it more complicated than it is. Compass pilots would rather be flying for NWA because it would be a better job. I'm not sure why bankruptcy is relevant to the conversation. Compass was created without input from Compass pilots. If we had been involved in the process of creating the company we'd have chosen to put the airplanes at NWA. It's pretty simple.

Your kidding me right? What came first the chicken or the egg? Compass or Compass Pilots? The B.K. or Compass? Whatever.

 

[NEWSOUTH]

He's making it more complicated than it is because he's a buffoon.

Just read a bunch of his other posts to see that he goes from thread to thread starting fights. Credibility is gone; I would not have replied if I had already read the other stuff.

I explained it twice simple enough for a third grader to understand. Then you did it again. He still won't get it!

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Your right. I won't understand with that logic. Explain it once more for a buffoon.

You think Compass flying should be Mainline. It was the B.K. that messed it all up for compass?

I say it was the B.K. that started Compass. Now it should be Mainline flying? The B.K. was the start of Compass to avoid it from being Mainline to begin with. Of coarse it should be Mainline flying. That is why they used B.K. to avoid the higher rates of Mainline. Now, you have a job and want it snapped back to mainline? Of coarse you do. But I'm sorry, that is why they call it Compass. Are you serious?Explain??? I will really try to understand. Maybe I am missing some facts.

 

[NEWSOUTH]

You are making it more complicated than it is. Compass pilots would rather be flying for NWA because it would be a better job. I'm not sure why bankruptcy is relevant to the conversation. Compass was created without input from Compass pilots. If we had been involved in the process of creating the company we'd have chosen to put the airplanes at NWA. It's pretty simple.

Sure you would rather be flying for NWA. Yes, it would be a better job.

B.K. is relevent because Compass would have never been formed.

Yes, compass was formed without compass pilot imput. Because they form a corporation first, then they hire the pilots.

Sure you would have put the planes at NWA, then you could have applied to NWA instead of Compass.\

But you did not. You applied to Compass and now you want to work for NWA. And you blame B.K. for messing it all up. However, if not for B.K. you would not have been able to apply to Compass. Am I wrong?

 

[DYLIN]

Good grief.

What is so hard about this?


NWA enters bankruptcy

Compass is formed

New NWA contract in place


When did I ever say the order was different?

What I said several times and so did Drew, is that all pilots, NWA or Compass, prefer that the flying never had left mainline (and Compass never would have been created).

 

[NEWSOUTH]

Good grief.

What is so hard about this?


NWA enters bankruptcy

Compass is formed

New NWA contract in place


When did I ever say the order was different?

What I said several times and so did Drew, is that all pilots, NWA or Compass, prefer that the flying never had left mainline (and Compass never would have been created).

I prefer that the flying never left Mainline either. I prefer that compass was never created either. Ok, we agree on that.

So explain your problem from there on in. Ok.

 

[NEWSOUTH]

I prefer that the flying never left Mainline either. I prefer that compass was never created either. Ok, we agree on that.

So explain your problem from there on in. Ok.

Also, you speak of a new NWA contract? Is compass included in that?

 

[DYLIN]

Of course it is.

Compass is the unfortunate result of less scope.

 

[DYLIN]

I prefer that the flying never left Mainline either. I prefer that compass was never created either. Ok, we agree on that.

So explain your problem from there on in. Ok.

I think you are reading what I wrote too deeply or something.

All I originally meant was, there should not be any animosity towards Compass pilots from DAL/NWA pilots because Compass pilots had no say in how the scope was changed at mainline. Only later on did Compass start receiving airplanes and hiring.

Despite what some NWA pilots may believe (a minority from what I gather), Compass is no different than ExpressJet, SkyWest, Mesa, Republic, or any other contractor. They're simply the most recent creation.

 

[NEWSOUTH]

Of course it is.

Compass is the unfortunate result of less scope.

Of course it is the unfortunate result of less scope. That was the intent. Are you kidding me again?

 

[NEWSOUTH]

I think you are reading what I wrote too deeply or something.

All I originally meant was, there should not be any animosity towards Compass pilots from DAL/NWA pilots because Compass pilots had no say in how the scope was changed at mainline. Only later on did Compass start receiving airplanes and hiring.

Despite what some NWA pilots may believe (a minority from what I gather), Compass is no different than ExpressJet, SkyWest, Mesa, Republic, or any other contractor. They're simply the most recent creation.

Oh my gosh!! Are you smoking crack? Are you f'ing with me? Are you kidding me? Would someone please chime in. I'll reply to this after I get some sleep. I can not beleive this. We will get this straight. I promise. In the morning, for sure. No disrespect intended.

 

[DoinTime]

What I said several times and so did Drew, is that all pilots, NWA or Compass, prefer that the flying never had left mainline (and Compass never would have been created).

So you would favor the return of the compass fleet to mainline even though it would cost you your job? or is your preference conditional on your job moving with it to mainline?

 

[NEWSOUTH]

Thank you for understanding this and spreading the word.

There isn't ONE pilot at Compass who likes the fact that he or she is flying a flight that should be a mainline leg.

If it weren't for the corrupt bankruptcy mess it still would be a mainline leg and both Compass pilots and Northwest pilots want it to be mainline.

This was the post that I started referencing. If this guy was a pink slipped NW pilot I would understand.
However, please insert any regional pilot talking to his MEC here:

"Well, you see sir, if it wasn't for all that SCOPE mess that was created while I was on the street then my jet job would have been a mainline flight. Sooo I think you should put me on the mainline list with DOH and back pay of coarse. Don't you agree? I know mainline wants it to be a mainline flight."