Ted Stevens-Age 65 Champion-Hero to Zero

[Nindiri]

Wow, some of you people are vicious. Because you disagree with him on age 65, you want him to be raped in prison. That's pretty harsh. :nuts:

 

[waveflyer]

Or you could admit that the bulk of the pain the pilot profession is going through currently has nothing to do with Age65.

No- it has to do w/ disunity- which is where age 65 came from;
You guys looked out for #1- agreed to b-scales for your own good- outsourcing of jobs while guys were being placed on furlough in order to save your jobs.... Now there are a ton of pilots at sub-standard wages willing to accept the 'step-up' wages from competitors known as WN ,JBlu and today VA- all putting downward pressure on your own wages. Now bk's come and the contracts you set your life up on get decimated b/c of the short sighted decisions you've been making for 15-20 years. (I'll include voting republican in that stack) Now it's POOR ME- i HAVE TO KEEP WORKING!!!
IT"S NOT MY FAULT. I've provided the example that I must look out for myself first and the industry second.
But it's NOT MY FAULT!!! Maybe if i yell it loudly you won't keep pointing at my lack of integrity. EVERYBODY WAS DOING IT!!!

It's unionism 101- Unions don't work unless the older generation takes care of and sets up the next. Looking out for the junior sends so many messages to management. Looking out for the senior tells them you have a price at which you will sell out.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Let me guess, you are a happy 61 year old airline pilot? It's great that you have DC-3 time and you can remember the good-ole days. Quit being a roadblock for others and get back to the golf course old man!

Now, back to the original topic...

Nope. Early 40's, facing a 40% paycut and downgrade to FO and I was supporting a change to age 60 for over 10 years while still a junior F/O.

The fact that the day after the age change was passed and smoldering wreckage of doomed flights piloted by someone over 60 wasn't strewn from coast to coast proves that the rule was ridiculous. 65 works for now, but if the aggregate health of people improves in the future, it will be time to reevaluate it again. Since it took 49 years to move the retirement age 5 years, I would guess I'll be long gone before it makes another significant jump.

 

[waveflyer]

BTW- In an effort to mitigate this decision and bring some semblance of unity back to the generations=
The new payscales i propose:
year 12-189/hour
age 60- 180/hour
age 61- 170/hour
age 62- 160/hour
age 63- 150/hour
age 64- 140/hour
age 65- retire!

cost neutral to company as all proceeds spread evenly among FO's after a 1st year pay increase to $65/hour.

It's a win-win- you get to keep working, we get an increase in pay to compensate for the stagnation at all levels.

 

[ATRCAPT]

I wonder if they will rename the ANC airport if he's convicted.

It will be renamed the "Federal Pound Me In The A$$ International Airport".

 

[Erlanger]

I wonder if they will rename the ANC airport if he's convicted.

The had no business putting his name on that airport to begin with. I hope they take his name off.

With all the money they spent on that airport they couldn't built a walkway to join the two terminals. It really sucks waiting for that slow shuttle or walking in the bitter cold winter from one terminal to another.

 

[Fubijaakr]

You want to be hot at Stevens for something, try cargo cabotage. He's the guy that wrote, sponsored and passed the legislation that has Chinese freight haulers transhipping cargo through ANC.

Today its freight, tomorrow it'll be pax.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Wow, some of you people are vicious. Because you disagree with him on age 65, you want him to be raped in prison. That's pretty harsh. :nuts:

I just want him underground, the pain and misery he has inflicted on a whole workforce, is epic. His greed knows no bounds, no matter how you slice him, he is the epitome of everything wrong in our govt. I hope he takes a long time to die.
PBR
P.S. The cornholing would just be a warm up.

 

[michael707767]

Or you could admit that the bulk of the pain the pilot profession is going through currently has nothing to do with Age65.

on the other hand how many pilots would be furloughed if there were still pilots going out the top at age 60?

 

[Bringupthebird]

on the other hand how many pilots would be furloughed if there were still pilots going out the top at age 60?

That's hard to say, but those that are have an additional 5 years to try to recoup their loss, whatever the cause.

 

[michael707767]

That's hard to say, but those that are have an additional 5 years to try to recoup their loss, whatever the cause.

given the time value of money, five additional years at the end of your career will not make up for the loss they incur at the beginning of their career.

 

[GuppyWN]

Sweet irony. If convicted, I hope he enjoys many years in the pen.

Gup

 

[Bringupthebird]

given the time value of money, five additional years at the end of your career will not make up for the loss they incur at the beginning of their career.

No, but how many folks went through furloughs with age 60 in place? Would they be better off with an additional 5 years to recoup or not?

I would like to see what % of pilots have chosen to remain after 60 so far.

Career progressions and regressions depend on much more than attrition.

 

[Soverytired]

Tell that to Duke Cunningham.

His lack of subtlety certainly doomed him.

Nevertheless, if every Senator and Congressman who broke the law or violated ethical conflict of interest laws went to jail, there wouldn't be enough left to hold a quorum.

 

[qxdash8]

It will be renamed the "Federal Pound Me In The A$$ International Airport".

Nice!

Or perhaps - Sarah Palin International Airport?