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Disclaimer: If I were smart, I'd have gotten my 737 type in 1987 and bought doughnuts everyday for the SWA PHX CP until I got hired.

Now, none of us has a crystal ball. I KNEW the Midwest pilots were making a mistake by not embracing the offer from AirTran.

But, then again, I thought AA buying TWA would provide job security for me until I retired... :( Oops.

If anyone can GUARANTEE going to SWA will ensure a comfortable career from here on out, please raise your hand.

There are no guarantees in this business. All you can do is mentally and financially prepare yourself for the next screwing coming down the pike. Good luck to all. TC
 
Bizness is Bizness in this country. The MEH model, while enjoyable as a consumer, was not sustainable as a bizness or it would still be in operation.

Untrue. The MEH model was quite sustainable, until it was discarded for the "Saver" white trash transportation program, which precipitated the beginning of the end.

Eventually we'll all work for SWA,

Untrue.

It could be worse, MEH could have been bought by Airtran,

Untrue. Under any likely scenario, many more MEH pilots would still be employed if Airtran had prevailed.
 
No,no,no....That Story has a Frog and a Spider.

When they get to the other side, THEN, the Spider bites the Frog (who dies )....and then he goes on his merry way.

The version I heard was told by Forrest Whitaker in The Crying Game. It was a frog and a scorpion. The scorpion stung in mid-stream, killing the frog, but ironically drowning himself too.

From IMDB: "...and as they both sink beneath the waves, the frog cries out, "Why did you sting me, Mr. Scorpion? For now we both will drown!" Scorpion replies, "I can't help it. It's in my nature!"

That dialog was the best part of an otherwise mediocre movie.

And the parallel with airline management and labor is obvious: happy pilots (and other rank-and-file workers) are good for the bottom line. But most airline management can't help themselves. It's in their nature to nickle-and-dime us instead of their business models.
 
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Your right of course.....

Untrue. The MEH model was quite sustainable, until it was discarded for the "Saver" white trash transportation program, which precipitated the beginning of the end.



Untrue.



Untrue. Under any likely scenario, many more MEH pilots would still be employed if Airtran had prevailed.

Unfortunately you didn't see the sarcasm. Of course more pilots would be working if Airtran had come in there, of course we all won't work for SWA, but having a business class airline based out of Milwaukee was probably a long term long shot from the beginning. That part of the country seems to be in some of the biggest malaise, besides it's cold up there.
Fly Safe, it's not personal, it's business and almost all pilots have no control over it.
 
When I first starting flying jets, I asked the same question to an older, well seasoned captain. "Hey Dave," I sez.... "What's the secret to success in this Airline biz?" He replied to me "Son, the Airline biz is nothing more that three big piles of Shat.
You have a big steamin pile of cowshat.
You have a smaller pile of warm dogshat
You have a small pile of cold, wet catshat.
When the door opens, run right over to the big pile of cowshat and dig right in cause if you wait, soon it will be all gone, along with the warm dogshat, and all you're left with is the cold pile of wet catshat. He rather enjoyed the bewildered look on my face, and went on to explain that the last guy out the door of a failing airline winds up with the 3rd pile.
 

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