Any Cocal-Cola drivers on here?

[bizjet800]

The bigger the airplane = the bigger the suitcase = the longer you're gone!

ALL I WANTED WAS A PEPSI!!!

 

[JJET44]

I fly a couple of old, but very well maintained Falcon 20's for a 91 only flight department. I've flown about four hours this month with no overnights. I've only done 2 RON's all summer.
G-200, your right, I did generalize my statement, but in the case of Coke, 18 days in a row away from home isn't worth flying a G550 or the money that it brings IMO.

 

[dickburns]

I guess in my opinion it's not so much the fact that you get to fly a Gucci jet as what the job includes. The exotic travel would rank as the #1 job perk/pro for something like that. How much fun is it flying everyday between two small towns 500nm apart, and you go to those spots week in, week out. International flying is where it's at, you get to travel, get all over, interact with different controllers, cultures, flying rules/regs (oceanic stuff, etc). The reason I said GLEX/G550 is I don't know of any BE40 or C525 operator that goes to Asia and Europe routinely, etc. You need a long range jet to get to those spots and travel, so maybe you could include a F900EX but that would basically be the extent of the equipment.

Dream jobs, in my opinion.

 

[satpak77]

I guess in my opinion it's not so much the fact that you get to fly a Gucci jet as what the job includes. The exotic travel would rank as the #1 job perk/pro for something like that. How much fun is it flying everyday between two small towns 500nm apart, and you go to those spots week in, week out. International flying is where it's at, you get to travel, get all over, interact with different controllers, cultures, flying rules/regs (oceanic stuff, etc). The reason I said GLEX/G550 is I don't know of any BE40 or C525 operator that goes to Asia and Europe routinely, etc. You need a long range jet to get to those spots and travel, so maybe you could include a F900EX but that would basically be the extent of the equipment.

Dream jobs, in my opinion.

While I see what you are saying I and alot of us prefer to be HOME as much as possible due to kids, family (those of us that actually HAVE a functional family). I have been to over ten countries and I don't fly a F900.

But yes I see your points.

 

[Fokkerflyer]

Anybody know the secret handshake to enter the Gulfstream community? I want the jacket.

The jacket is for weenies that love to show everyone that they drive a Gulfstream.

Same as those whose vanity plate says anything aviation related like GDRVR, GLXPLT n' such

Or is it just a short weenie complex..?

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I guess in my opinion it's not so much the fact that you get to fly a Gucci jet as what the job includes. The exotic travel would rank as the #1 job perk/pro for something like that. How much fun is it flying everyday between two small towns 500nm apart, and you go to those spots week in, week out. International flying is where it's at, you get to travel, get all over, interact with different controllers, cultures, flying rules/regs (oceanic stuff, etc). The reason I said GLEX/G550 is I don't know of any BE40 or C525 operator that goes to Asia and Europe routinely, etc. You need a long range jet to get to those spots and travel, so maybe you could include a F900EX but that would basically be the extent of the equipment.

Dream jobs, in my opinion.

I think I hear what you are saying...and I agree, I dislike domestic flying as I find it a lot more work that INTL flying, and far more draining. I probably do no more than 5-10 domestic flights a year now, and thats fine. We do a mix of flying, an have some older guys who are just as happy to stay close these days..better them than me.

BUT...I know plenty of INTL operations that are downright miserable. An owner who want to live in Hong Kong 6 months of the year? - guess where you may sit for weeks at a time? - dont get me wrong its a great city for a night or two but its NOT HOME! and that gets old real quick.

Another reason to shop WAY beyond the jet on the ramp? - QOL - there are billionaires who insist you reposition coach class. Ever try that? I wouldn't, Id quit on the spot first. Business class or better is bad enough when repostioning far away (a simple fact sometimes on these aircraft)

There are a lot of things to consider! - the plane itself being a few items down on the list...

Good Luck!

PS - and yes, the wearing of the vendor jacket says WEENIE like nothing else. Just dont do it. Its like photshopping afterburners into your Gulfstream avatar - it screams "Im a real dork"......:laugh:

 

[AA717driver]

The LAX-CRQ legs were far more stressful than the LAX-RJAA legs. But I enjoyed both.

To each, his own. My family has adjusted to my schedule whether it's 5 3-day trips with the airlines or 20 day trips in corporate. I've found that it's up to you to make the adjustment when you get home. An FO told me that it was a pain to go home because his kid wanted to play ball and spend time with his Dad while he wanted to work on his hobby (woodworking or something...). "My days off are MY days off". He may not have been the most miserable SOB I've met in aviation but he certainly was in medal contention.

Salesmen, truck drivers, boat captains, pilots--LOTS of people spend time on the road--many spend more time away from home than we do. It's the commitment you make to your family that determines whether your marriage survives or not. TC

P.S.--G200: I'm guessing you don't want any of my FFB miles on Frontier or SWA from all my repositioning flights. uke:

 

[gear_guy]

The bigger the airplane = the bigger the suitcase = the longer you're gone!

I used to think this too. But I must say that this is a generalization. 3 years ago I left a job flying Citations and had 100 RON's. Flew about 600 hours.

I now fly a GIV and fly about 375 hours with around 30-40 RON's. Oh yeah, and I get paid almost double. 95% domestic too.

I say none of this to brag. I thank God for how he has blessed me. I would give it all up in a heart beat if that was God's plan for me. I just did'nt want this aviator who aspires to fly large equipment to be detered by some false information by people who have never flown such equipment.

It really depends on the operator. If your dream is to fly Intl. Do it!!! I can say that is a ton of fun. And my skills have grown exponentially since I started flying oversees.

Bottom line. To each his own.

 

[gear_guy]

The jacket is for weenies that love to show everyone that they drive a Gulfstream.

Same as those whose vanity plate says anything aviation related like GDRVR, GLXPLT n' such

Or is it just a short weenie complex..?

I cant speak for anyone else. But in my case, the jacket was free and I wear it because I am too cheap to buy myself a leather jacket. :laugh: (2 kids at home). I could care less that it says Gulfstream on the front. Of course if it said "weenie" on the front I would have to reconsider.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Of course if it said "weenie" on the front I would have to reconsider.

OH, it does.


Kidding...:laugh:

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Salesmen, truck drivers, boat captains, pilots--LOTS of people spend time on the road--many spend more time away from home than we do. It's the commitment you make to your family that determines whether your marriage survives or not. TC

about the best said thing here yet.

 

[say again]

Just like every other aspect of life-each person has their own likes/dislikes. Personally, I like flying the domestic, Carib, and Canada trips. I spend quite a bit of time at home, but also get to enjoy the road as well. All in all I'm very happy flying my Hawker.

Arguing over this is like arguing over politics-people have their own views, and most likely are not going to change them because someone feels otherwise.

 

[yfly]

The point to all this is there is something for everyone. As pilots we tend to think our line of thinking is the best/only way.

If someone wants to fly halfway around the world and do it often enough to know where to get a good hamburger, great for them. If someone wants to fly 200 miles, sit for the day and be home in time to coach baseball, great for them.

I know airline pilots that wouldn't do the corporate thing for any pay. I know corporate guys that won't think about airline work. I know a cropduster that doesn't think lift can be generated above 1000' agl. I know king air pilots that don't want a jet job, etc.

Everyody is right and nobody is wrong!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

The point to all this is there is something for everyone. As pilots we tend to think our line of thinking is the best/only way.

If someone wants to fly halfway around the world and do it often enough to know where to get a good hamburger, great for them. If someone wants to fly 200 miles, sit for the day and be home in time to coach baseball, great for them.

I know airline pilots that wouldn't do the corporate thing for any pay. I know corporate guys that won't think about airline work. I know a cropduster that doesn't think lift can be generated above 1000' agl. I know king air pilots that don't want a jet job, etc.

Everyody is right and nobody is wrong!

I think we knew all this?

and I cant recall any arguements here?

Seemed more like guys sharing info on their own jobs and pointing out misconceptions in a professional manner....a rather helpful thread to the original poster asking about long haul corporate jobs.

Really, forum cops need not respond!

:laugh:

 

[jet2work]

If flying a G550 will to China will make you happy, then I say go for it. Everyone should have dreams and goals. Sometimes when you achieve them you find out it wasn't what you expected (like after I married the Victoria Secret supermodel and inheirited 17.3 Million dollars) It's not that I wanted more, I just wanted something different.imp:

The great thing about living in the USA (assuming you do) is that you can do whatever you want. And if you find out you don't like it - you can go do something else. Too many people are afraid to get outside their comfort zone and succeed. Don't be one of those people, and you will be flying a G550 or GLEX before you know it. Then if you find out you don't like it, please call me before you give notice so I can have it:laugh:

 

[dickburns]

Well, the definition of travel is all relative, I guess. I've been to over 50 countries on my own, by the age of 20 and hope to continue that rate of over 2 countries per year. Travel > * in my opinion. The guys who don't see that? Too bad for them. I'd love to be flying their GLEX or G550 instead of them, heh. Airlines are no fun, the ultime job is the ultimate corporate flying job, end of story.

 

[8Row]

Corp Flying

Dickburns, Nice to see some guys still have a love for flying. The guys that quotes being gone 18 days on trips for big flight departments like Coke, just doesn't have a clue. They've listened to some ancient history that just isn't reality. If you fly the long range aircraft, you're gonna go international. Unless you invented a new globe, that means it usually takes more than a couple hours. Trips range anywhere from day out-and-backs to 10 days (on the extreme end). 14-17 days per month.

If guys want to be home every night, have a schedule that never changes, lost benefits, and no stability, then the airlines need you. If you like flying with a great group of people, work for a company that takes care of you with great benefits, corp is the way to go.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

If guys want to be home every night, have a schedule that never changes, lost benefits, and no stability, then the airlines need you. If you like flying with a great group of people, work for a company that takes care of you with great benefits, corp is the way to go.

Obviously I prefer corporate also, but I'd be careful throwing around that "stability" word anywhere in this business today!

There have been some larger department closures recently and no doubt pressure among rich individual owners also...its everywhere! - certainly not the bloodbath the airlines are, but sadly, nobody is immune....

 

[STAL6]

Dickburns, Nice to see some guys still have a love for flying. The guys that quotes being gone 18 days on trips for big flight departments like Coke, just doesn't have a clue. They've listened to some ancient history that just isn't reality. If you fly the long range aircraft, you're gonna go international. Unless you invented a new globe, that means it usually takes more than a couple hours. Trips range anywhere from day out-and-backs to 10 days (on the extreme end). 14-17 days per month.

I was in G-550 maintenance refresher with a Flight Mech from Coke a few weeks ago and he told me they go on trips for 15 to over 20 days at a time on a regular basis. Not all cooperate operators fly like that but, Coke does. They go to multiple locations and sit a couple days at each one. I have no reason not to believe the guy.

 

[say again]

Well, the definition of travel is all relative, I guess. I've been to over 50 countries on my own, by the age of 20 and hope to continue that rate of over 2 countries per year. Travel > * in my opinion. The guys who don't see that? Too bad for them. I'd love to be flying their GLEX or G550 instead of them, heh. Airlines are no fun, the ultime job is the ultimate corporate flying job, end of story.

Your opinion and preference, some certainly would not agree.