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Saw one of your G550s coming back from Beijing. Looks like a pretty sweet gig. I *MUST* say, all of you Gulfstream drivers on this board...I hope you know how good you have it, from everything I've seen, that is the best of the best, in terms of pilot jobs. Great travel. All over the world, exotic spots, company takes care of you, decent salary. Definitely a dream job, though they seem to be almost IMPOSSIBLE to get. I'm jealous!
 

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watch out what you wish for- you most probably will get it.

oh btw, it is pretty good and no I don't mean coke. :)
 

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Saw one of your G550s coming back from Beijing. Looks like a pretty sweet gig. I *MUST* say, all of you Gulfstream drivers on this board...I hope you know how good you have it, from everything I've seen, that is the best of the best, in terms of pilot jobs. Great travel. All over the world, exotic spots, company takes care of you, decent salary. Definitely a dream job, though they seem to be almost IMPOSSIBLE to get. I'm jealous!

Since when have you been able to judge the quality of a flight department by the type of aircraft operated? :confused:

I gar-dam-tee you there are Gulfstream jobs that could never pay me enough to take.
 

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Since when have you been able to judge the quality of a flight department by the type of aircraft operated? :confused:

I gar-dam-tee you there are Gulfstream jobs that could never pay me enough to take.

I think most understood the post to mean that, in general, the better corporate jobs are in larger equipment. Add decent pay, a good company, and sufficient staff - and you may have the ideal job (In his opinion, and mine)

Only YOU know what job is good for YOU...but I gar-dam-tee ya..:) ... there are far more crappy Beechjet jobs than crappy G550 jobs.
 

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Gulfstream200 hit the nail on the head.

How many C560 or BE40 jobs do you get to fly all over the world for? Fly nice equipment? Etc. I think it's suffice to say a G550/GLEX job is about the best job out there in the pilot world. I just hope most of the Gucci-jet drivers realize how good they have it!
 

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. I think it's suffice to say a G550/GLEX job is about the best job out there in the pilot world. I just hope most of the Gucci-jet drivers realize how good they have it!

well......Id say you need to shop the company and coworkers before the aircraft...but YES, combine them all and you might be looking at the better jobs in the industry in terms of QOL, stability (careful!) and money.

Plus, some experience in these planes allows you to walk from those crappy gigs and shop more carefully for the top jobs!

A understaffed (anything under 3-4 IMHO) Gulf/GLEX job with an owner who hops the world can be an awful, horrible gig...

I also find flying all over the world to be "fun" - but its still away from home, and there better be good breaks in between all the "fun" to enjoy what really matters - a decent salary and time at home with family and friends.

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Good job if you don't mind doing a lot of 15 to 19 day trips around the world.
 

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Flight Safety Atlanta is littered with guys who couldn't get away from Coke fast enough. 15+ day trips, home for 3 or 4, and out 15+ again.
 

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I'm perfectly happy flying my "little" Hawker. I have no desire to fly the "big" in our fleet. Yeah the pay would be better, but would be away a helluva lot more. My QOL is just fine for now, and pay is equally as good. It's all personal preferences.
 

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Anyone heard the term "the bigger the airplane the bigger the suitcase"?
Guys flying big airplanes have to be paid the big buck because they have to pay all their Ex-wives.
I flew a 767 around the world for a short time and made some good $ doing it but I realized that if I stayed there I was going to wind up divorced.
Let the guys with the "small weenie" complex fly the big jets. They can go home to their corvettes and empty apartments a few night a month. I'll go home to my wife and kids every night.
 

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Anyone heard the term "the bigger the airplane the bigger the suitcase"?
Guys flying big airplanes have to be paid the big buck because they have to pay all their Ex-wives.
I flew a 767 around the world for a short time and made some good $ doing it but I realized that if I stayed there I was going to wind up divorced.
Let the guys with the "small weenie" complex fly the big jets. They can go home to their corvettes and empty apartments a few night a month. I'll go home to my wife and kids every night.

Now there's some faulty generalization....

Im home far more flying a Global Express than I ever was flying a Westwind or any other smaller bizjet. I was home mostly every night...after everyone was asleep and I was exhausted from flying some small junkbox 4 legs+ a day. Id rather go away for a week then come home and be left alone for a stretch of time.

Shop the job carefully. From my experience the key to QOL is staffing. I personally would give up other parts of the job for the days home. Some G/GLEX jobs pay a lot of money, but put you on the road an unpredictable number of days. Obviously not ideal for everyone (me for example) Some want the money.

At my current (very average) job we work (fly, train, etc) 10-14 days of work a month, with 8 RONS being the norm. 250-275hrs a year. Not ideal, but not terrible....and off the top of my head, I think 3 out of our 16 pilots have been divorced (just a quick guess)

I dont think you can blame the job for the divorce rate amongst pilots....its usually more their stellar personalities...:) ;)
 
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My experience flying and QOL has been similar to G200. I think I flew 220 hrs last year. Home a lot more than away. I do have a BIG suitcase, so I can have all my creature comforts. This isn't a pissing contest- and it isn't good to stereotype.
 

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what is "good" for one is not "good" for another. International trips in a G-5 are "good" for some kid who is wagging his tail and just got his Commercial ticket at Embry Riddle

being home every night so I can kick the soccer ball with my son is "good" for me.

takes all types

enjoy the G-5 job
 

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International trips in a G-5 are "good" for some kid who is wagging his tail and just got his Commercial ticket at Embry Riddle

Or maybe for some kid who wants to make 150-250K in this business and actually enjoys the International trips and QOL offered with a decent company? Not possible I suppose?

Throw in the job security and the flexibility having those ratings offers in this industry? Id rather shop for a job with a G550 rating than with ">1500hrs PIC time in a King Air"

and really, what does Embry-Riddle have to do with anything? Guess I missed something?

just another generalization?

Its great you are lucky to have a job that suits you well, but dont think for a second others cant have that QOL (and far more) in a G5 or another aircraft...again, shop the company, people, and QOL - not the airframe.
 
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what is "good" for one is not "good" for another. International trips in a G-5 are "good" for some kid who is wagging his tail and just got his Commercial ticket at Embry Riddle

being home every night so I can kick the soccer ball with my son is "good" for me.

takes all types

enjoy the G-5 job

Right on!

I loved my job when we had the Beechjet. Now that the Brand New Hawker is here, I have died and gone to heaven. We fly between 5-10 days per month, Ron's are rare, Based at the Factory service center, Part 91 0nly, 2 days notice is a "pop-up" and we are treated like Kings. Heck, the Boss even sponsors the ball teams I coach. Home on all holidays too!

Maybe when the Kids are grown I will try the globe trotting thing, but for now, no interest.

Unlike my Brothers at the Airlines, I have not missed one Christmas or Thanksgiving. Only missed a couple Birthdays.

Nice equipment can make a good gig great, but I would fly a King-Air for this guy. (No disrespect intended to King-Air Drivers)(I loved my time in the King-Air)
 

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This thread seems proof-positive that one man's desire is another man's dread.

Long live the straight-winged 0.62M roadblock of the skies that brings me home most every afternoon to my wife and pays my mortgage!

(and here's to hoping our growth continues and goes to the west coast so we can get a larger, more capable aircraft)
 
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