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[Amish RakeFight]

The only sad fact is that a republican won't be there to clean up the mess

As a registered Republican, I hope not.

 

[say again]

As a registered Republican, I hope not.

As do I

 

[Tweaker]

Some California fart sniffers tried to humiliate W by naming a solid waste treatment plant after him.

The joke is that, in fact, Republicans have been cleaning up the messes Dumocrats created for years.

Segregation

Vietnam

Deregulated electricity (brown outs)

Failure to respond effectively to initial domestic terrorism (World Trade Center Bombing, embassy bombings, attempts to criminally prosecute Bin Laden)

Move from the gold standard

 

[JoeMerchant]

and you're gonna lose b/c the population put our trust in the republican party and got screwed- and the whole country is messed up.

.....the fact that people put their trust in the Federal government to take care of them is the problem.....Republican or Democrat....The government can't save you from your own mistakes......

The main problem right now is the housing market....and we did this to ourselves.....

 

[Tweaker]

Some Dumocrat handywork

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this. It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to your kids. They need a little history lesson on what's what . And it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat of Republican. Facts are facts!!!

Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised: ​

1.) That participation in the Program would be
completely voluntary. ​

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
incomes into the Program, ​

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year, ​

4.) That the money the participants put into the
Independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
General Operating Fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
government program, and, ​

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
would never be taxed as income.​

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the federal government to 'put
away', you may be interested in the following: ​

------------------------------------------------------------- ​

Q: Which political party took Social Security from the
Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
General Fund so that Congress could spend it? ​

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically-
controlled House and Senate. ​

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Q: Which political party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding? ​

A: The Democratic Party. ​

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Q: Which political party started taxing Social
Security annuities? ​

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
'tie -breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the U.S. ​

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Q: Which political party decided to start giving
annuity payments to immigrants? ​

AND MY FAVORITE: ​

A: That's right! ​

Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.

Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
they began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them
even though they never paid a dime into it! ​

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Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), ​

the Democrats turn around and tell you that the ​

Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe it! ​

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of

awareness will be planted and maybe changes will
evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully
sure of what isn't so. ​

But it's worth a try. How many people can
YOU send this to? ​

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers. ​

AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT ​

FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!! ​

A government big enough to give you everything you want,
is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Thomas Jefferson

 

[Occam's Razor]

AFLAC!

 

[CA1900]

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this... Facts are facts!!!

If you're going to post "facts," it's best to verify them before cutting and pasting them from the e-mail forward you just got.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp

 

[Dan Roman]

If you're going to post "facts," it's best to verify them before cutting and pasting them from the e-mail forward you just got.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp

Right wing whackos don't do that, it would eliminate most of the tools they have when they argue!

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

Enlightened thought there Tweaker

 

[Occam's Razor]

It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to your kids. They need a little history lesson on what's what . And it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat of Republican. Facts are facts!!!

A 20-page thread about you and this type of crud.

Irony, thy name is Tweaker!

 

[Fly-n-hi]

It's sad how much faith you all put into government. I see alot of post saying "well if the Dems were in charge it would be better" or "if the Republicans were in charge we could fix this."

There's a reason the writers of the Constitution tried to limit the power of the federal government. There's a reason why they wanted to make it difficult for the government to get things done.

Do you ever ask yourself why? Do you ever ask yourself why men who studied goverment, and the consequenses of large uncrontolled governments, decided limit the power of the government here in the U.S.? Now might be a good time to go pick up some history books.

Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it...and that's exactly what's happening in the U.S. today.

The more power you give back to the government the more they will screw things up. It doesn't matter which side of the room you sit in. Things wont get better until the majority of people realize this. I seriously doubt that will happen, of course.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

The more power you give back to the government the more they will screw things up. It doesn't matter which side of the room you sit in. Things wont get better until the majority of people realize this. I seriously doubt that will happen, of course.

...yeah but, the masses are a$$es.... isnt that how it all got started?

 

[waveflyer]

the republicans believe in saying they believe in small government.
When have they actually REDUCED their own power while in power?

 

[414Flyer]

the republicans believe in saying they believe in small government.
When have they actually REDUCED their own power while in power?

They have at least tried, having proposed eliminating some federal agencies, or instituting a flat tax. While I wont hold my breath for either to happen unfortunately, at least some have tried. Both parties though have done their share to unfortunately expand government lately, and Obama certainly wants to continue that trend.

 

[PCL_128]

Who is the only President who actually shrunk the size of the federal government in the past century? Bill Clinton. So much for that Republican talking point bulls---.

 

[414Flyer]

Hmmm, I certainly recall Clinton trying hard to vastly increase the size of federal government through Hillary-care.

 

[waveflyer]

c'mon pcl-- they'll find a way to give credit to the congress on that

414- bottom line-- see w/ your own eyes- you said it already- BOTH parties have grown gov't- Republican party has spent us into debt and caught us in a global web w/ the middle east and china.

You all had your chance to elect McCain-- and you chose a silver spooned, cocaine addict, average person oil $$ man instead in a move that i will NEVER understand.
(And what's funny is how you are all confused about the country being so f-ed up-- lashing out in all kinds of ways because there really is noone else to blame but your beloved GOP)

Now it's Obama's turn. Support him and make your opinions on small govt and spending known--

And GET OFF THE PROPOGANDA (ie: cable news and talk radio) It's awful for the country that these spinsters are allowed to call themselves journalism

 

[waveflyer]

yeah?
And to you- health care is NOT broken?

 

[414Flyer]

No, its not broken, that would imply most people do not have health care. Most do have insurance, and many of the uninsured can still get urgent care for little or nothing from the city.

Throwing out the whole system and handing it over to the government, would be more likely to break it and bankrupt us, considering how every other federal medical bill has exponentially increased in cost over its estimates.

Well if you think Republicans grew government, wouldnt that make you happy, especially if you are an Obama supporter? The legistation would have had to have been bipartisan with Democratic support for it to have ever passed (not saying I agreed with it)

And Obama wants to fund Peace Corps/Americorp type groups to the same level of the Department of Defense.

 

[PCL_128]

Throwing out the whole system and handing it over to the government, would be more likely to break it and bankrupt us

Good thing nobody's suggesting that, then. I think you might want to put down Rush's book for your 1,000th read-through and actually pick up a copy of Obama's health care plan instead. You might learn something.