What is so bad about CAL?

[SFR]

Here is my take on the situation. I have been on this website on and off since 1998. Usually it is people complaining here. I think most of you would complain no matter what.


I work for CAL and I can't imagine a better job. The hourly rate is ok and the work rules are ok. All you folks that say it sucks here must be working for a different airline. I have flown 220 hours this year sitting reserve in IAH, fly 5-10 days per month, except July I flew 12.

What is that bad? Most of the complaints I hear are from commuters. Remember, you commute by choice, CAL does not require you to commute.

Someone please enlighten me and I will respond accordingly.

 

[Crucianpilot]

Here is my take on the situation. I have been on this website on and off since 1998. Usually it is people complaining here. I think most of you would complain no matter what.


I work for CAL and I can't imagine a better job. The hourly rate is ok and the work rules are ok. All you folks that say it sucks here must be working for a different airline. I have flown 220 hours this year sitting reserve in IAH, fly 5-10 days per month, except July I flew 12.

What is that bad? Most of the complaints I hear are from commuters. Remember, you commute by choice, CAL does not require you to commute.

Someone please enlighten me and I will respond accordingly.

Good post. I also work at CAL and commute as well. Best job I have had in my 17 yrs in the business. Decent flying, pay and working conditions could use some improvement but then again I have worked at a lot of places that were a heck of a lot worse than here. So I will continue to enjoy my work and do what I can to improve our current contract. This is my 7th airline so I guess I am a glutton for punishment. I still support my fellow pilots here; no VJM, wont pick up open time especially with guys on furlough and continue to try and educate those who just don't get it.

 

[taxicabdriver]

Here is my take on the situation. I have been on this website on and off since 1998. Usually it is people complaining here. I think most of you would complain no matter what.


I work for CAL and I can't imagine a better job. The hourly rate is ok and the work rules are ok. All you folks that say it sucks here must be working for a different airline. I have flown 220 hours this year sitting reserve in IAH, fly 5-10 days per month, except July I flew 12.

What is that bad? Most of the complaints I hear are from commuters. Remember, you commute by choice, CAL does not require you to commute.

Someone please enlighten me and I will respond accordingly.

After your done thumping your chest and bragging on your seniority why don't you look at what the FOs are having to go through on the 737. I'm glad you have a good schedule and like it, but not everyone is blessed to have your seniority and schedule. I don't commute either. Its a good thing, all the sets of 2 days off I get wouldn't be very easy to commute on.

 

[SFR]

My seniority is not that great. I think it is 84%, so you can see it is not all that.

All I am saying is that most people complain about problems they create for themselves.

I will never pick up trips with someone on furlough. I even signed up for the LVRF, hopefully I get it.


I know an FO that is 65% and he has 18 days off, that is not bad either.


Like I said initially, what is so bad at CAL?

 

[taxicabdriver]

I know an FO that is at 52% with 12 days off and 85 hours of flying....if you look at the PBS report, most everyone below the 45% mark is at 12-14 days off. I am at 70% and have 91 hrs hard time with only 12 days off...pathetic. I had to fly 96 hrs in July (July 31 had to start a trip that was in the August bid) will NEVER do the company a favor by picking up open time, I'm glad you won't either. I think that is a big problem at CAL, everyone is out for themselves. I have no clue why people are picking up all this flying to help out the company when we have people on the way out next month. I know everyone on my seniority is already flying so much even if they wanted to they can't pick up time, so I would bet that a good chunk of the people that are whoring themselves out are CAs.
I have vacation next month and was smacked with my MV/LOE the next two days following. Im in my early grace month in Sept and did not bid for any training. I can't wait to train on my days off. And do all those CBTs for nothing as well. Training on days off is another big beef I have with this place, who else does that??
Flying our butts off, offering jr. manning all the while sending our furlough notices...Training on days off....Never once in the past 1.5 years have we been above min. coverage so I can drop flying, skeleton staffing. I guess those are my big beefs with CAL...

 

[XBOEINGDRVR]

The scabs are the only bad thing about CAL

 

[rf285]

There is nothing inherently bad about CAL (except scabs), but there are many better places to work. I know, I was at CAL, and now at DAL. No regrets, worst day at DAL, better than best at CAL.

 

[mynameisjim]

Aren't you the same guy that was asking if CAL was hiring a few days ago?

 

[chperplt]

Aren't you the same guy that was asking if CAL was hiring a few days ago?

I was thinking the same thing....

If I'm not mistaken, he said "Are they hiring", not "Are we hiring."

 

[SFR]

So how is the worst day at DAL better than the best day at CAL? Give examples...

From my friends at DAL that sit reserve vs. me, I like my quality of life better.

If CAL is flying you too much, bid reserve. It is the best gig out there.

 

[Kharma Police]

So how is the worst day at DAL better than the best day at CAL? Give examples...

From my friends at DAL that sit reserve vs. me, I like my quality of life better.

If CAL is flying you too much, bid reserve. It is the best gig out there.

I know three people that left CAL for DAL, I thought it was because they wanted to be back in ATL; but if you're happy than why do you care what people think? Are you having a bad day in Newark or something?

 

[eaglesview]

Your breaking all the rules if you post anything positive. Most folks here want to complain non stop, or tell you how your airline is screwed and you better get your resume going.

 

[SFR]

True that. Once again, nobody can give me a reason DAL is better than CAL. Lots of excuses, no facts....Hmm wonder why I am not surprised

 

[rf285]

DAL:

Much better pay in the right seat. Second year 88 almost what widebody pay is at CAL. PBS that works, MUCH better bases, and all around better contract (work rules anyone??). Also much better commuter clause and jumpseat provisions if you do commute.

I'll give CAL:

Better swap with opentime provisions (no pickups of course!), better FAs (not as many cat ranchers), and of course no hats in summer.

Both are good airlines, but one is better. No regrets!

 

[SFR]

But the reserve system sucks..

 

[The Victors]

ask the new hires that pay for their medical benefits what they think.

 

[ATRCA]

Here is my take on the situation. I have been on this website on and off since 1998. Usually it is people complaining here. I think most of you would complain no matter what.


I work for CAL and I can't imagine a better job. The hourly rate is ok and the work rules are ok. All you folks that say it sucks here must be working for a different airline. I have flown 220 hours this year sitting reserve in IAH, fly 5-10 days per month, except July I flew 12.

What is that bad? Most of the complaints I hear are from commuters. Remember, you commute by choice, CAL does not require you to commute.

Someone please enlighten me and I will respond accordingly.

VJM guy huh? Another company man or as we like to say company "savior"?? I could be wrong......

 

[rf285]

Reserve at DAL is STILL better than CAL. If no furloughs have been announced, and category is short you can make a lot of money. Also PBS doesn't build your reserve line which is a GIANT plus. 12 hour call out with 8 possible short calls per month. That will be reduced to 6 in the JCBA if it passes. Much better than the 9 hour call out if you commute with "A" reserve! Not possible to sit reserve at home at CAL if you commute by aircraft. DAL it is and I have with no problem! The only thing that is not as good is the leveling mechanism called the RAW score, but you can manipulate that to a degree.

Sorry, done both systems and no question on the winner.

Once again, I think CAL is a good airline, but I think most would choose DAL unless they live in IAH or EWR.

 

[727C47]

at my day job we have at least one CAL newbie who left before the first year was complete,no benefits for 6 months is a disgrace,but if you are happy there God bless you,most of my amigos over there ,are not thrilled to be there right now,but a large part of that is that they are furlough fodder. I have to say CAL was very good to me back when I was a pt.135 freightdog,the jumpseat was always open to me between DTW_EWR(ancestral homeland),and for that I will always be grateful.

 

[whatitdoing?]

Reserve at DAL is STILL better than CAL. If no furloughs have been announced, and category is short you can make a lot of money. Also PBS doesn't build your reserve line which is a GIANT plus. 12 hour call out with 8 possible short calls per month. That will be reduced to 6 in the JCBA if it passes. Much better than the 9 hour call out if you commute with "A" reserve! Not possible to sit reserve at home at CAL if you commute by aircraft. DAL it is and I have with no problem! The only thing that is not as good is the leveling mechanism called the RAW score, but you can manipulate that to a degree.

Sorry, done both systems and no question on the winner.

Once again, I think CAL is a good airline, but I think most would choose DAL unless they live in IAH or EWR.

You let us know how that furlough goes when the merger get's finalized. If you don't think that's coming, you're an idiot. :beer: