Gotta ask the DAL hat ???

[N2264J]

Re: Gotta ask the DAL hat?

How does a hat contribute to a PIC decision?

Really, as our industry spirals toward oblivion, someone is worried about hat hair.

For those who disregard the Ops Manual on the small stuff like uniform items or pulling out a newspaper on the flight deck, I recommend keeping a special IOE type eye on them because usually, their screwing up the important things as well.

 

[FBN0223]

Really, as our industry spirals toward oblivion, someone is worried about hat hair.

No worries at all. Just wear the uniform and hat if required.

If you fly internationally, you'll certainly find that the hat does make life easier. Firstly, it identifies you as a flight deck crew member. Many of the foreign carriers have flight attendants who wear three stripes on the shoulder, the real difference between pilot and FA uniforms is the hat. In many cases, I have found it easier getting through security, customs, flagging down the van and checking in at the hotel wearing the ole lid. Unlike the US, there's is still some respect given to those in our profession, especially in Asia.

As long as the paychecks keep coming, I'll wear whatever Delta wants. Keep it easy. FBN

 

[PCL_128]

This is pathetic. The profession is in the crapper and we're arguing about hats. Just put the damned thing on if it's required and stop whining. If it's not required, then do whatever the hell you want and stop telling me that my hat is "outdated."

 

[aa73]

The hat has pretty much become optional at AA these days. Can't blame us - we have the sorriest type of hats - Superior (pieces of crap) and the crappiest hat emblems, basically a patch that always ends up sideways.

On my last few int'l trips, I saw many foreign crews who didn't have any hats. Aerolineas Argentinas down in BA... a British Airways crew in JFK... and an Iberia crew in Barcelona. I think the hat is definitely going bye-bye world wide.

I do agree it looks sharp, but the trend is slowly disappearing. Airline pilots wearing their blazers still look plenty sharp.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Really, as our industry spirals toward oblivion, someone is worried about hat hair.

:laugh: :laugh:

For those who disregard the Ops Manual on the small stuff like uniform items or pulling out a newspaper on the flight deck, I recommend keeping a special IOE type eye on them because usually, their screwing up the important things as well.

That's very true!

 

[eyeamthechosen1]

Hats.........hmmmm........I know guys that look real professional in their hats and constantly fail checkrides.. Where I work we don't wear hats and there are a lot of professional pilots. The passengers don't care and they are paying a lot more money than those passengers on a Delta flight.

 

[nwaredtail]

So here we are again with one uniform, hats and a pay raise. Sign me up.

Come back after six months or so and tell us if your paychecks have actually gone up. Me thinks not!

 

[General Lee]

Hats.........hmmmm........I know guys that look real professional in their hats and constantly fail checkrides.. Where I work we don't wear hats and there are a lot of professional pilots. The passengers don't care and they are paying a lot more money than those passengers on a Delta flight.

That is fantastic that you know people who wear hats and "Constantly" fail checkrides......??? Huh? What is your point with the above? So, you don't wear hats and you DO HAVE PROFESSIONAL PILOTS? Again, that is awesome. ????????? You kinda sound like a "TARD."

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I've said this before. The hat is a psychological tool they use to gain control over you. Think of it as a puppeteer wielding an invisible psychological control over your way of thinking about your job.

Clearly, it has a profound effect on the General.

Outside of managerial coercion, it begins to fall more into the realm of fashion. Some guys like it for particular reasons (balding, feels it commands respect, for instance) and some don't. The ones that actually like it, wear it and defend it. Vice versa for the others.


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[slinky]

Incorrect. A double breasted jacket actually enhances a big gut. A traditional two or three button jacket is more slimming.


As for the folks talking about how the hat commands respect; That's BS too. What? Let's say there is an issue in the cabin on the ground and a hatless Captain comes back to address it. The misbehaving passenger doesn't respect the Captain. Then the Captain returns to the cockpit to don his hat and goes back to the passenger. Will the misbehaving passenger all of a sudden generate a newly found respect for the now hatted Captain? Give me a break! I'm all for wearing what your employer tells you. However, don't be so pretentious and say that a friggin' hat "commands respect". Or else you had better respect those Skycaps as an authority figure!

I hate to slam on people but the link you put in your post actaully talks about the SLIMMING effect of the double brested suits. Read it......

"The traditional view is that double-breasted makes one broader. Alan Flusser

disagrees: he contends that the swooping lapels of a double-breasted [COLOR=#d96c00! important][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#d96c00! important][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]jacket[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR], from the tip of a peaked lapel down to two crossed points at the waist, create the illusion of height. This illusion, he argues, more than compensates for the impression of breadth achieved elsewhere."

Yes some parts of the article talk about how the short and fat look better in a single brested suit, but it is not difinitive.

slinky

 

[Tanker Clown]

When you look up gay in the dictionary it says: "Delta pilot in his uniform."

Don't get mad at me guys....get mad at Webster.

 

[aa73]

When you look up gay in the dictionary it says: "Delta pilot in his uniform."

Don't get mad at me guys....get mad at Webster.

No offense Tanker Clown but this coming from someone who has a naked dude in his avatar?

 

[waka]

I hate to slam on people but the link you put in your post actaully talks about the SLIMMING effect of the double brested suits. Read it......

"The traditional view is that double-breasted makes one broader. Alan Flusser

disagrees: he contends that the swooping lapels of a double-breasted [COLOR=#d96c00! important][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#d96c00! important][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]jacket[/FONT][/FONT][/color][/color], from the tip of a peaked lapel down to two crossed points at the waist, create the illusion of height. This illusion, he argues, more than compensates for the impression of breadth achieved elsewhere."

Yes some parts of the article talk about how the short and fat look better in a single brested suit, but it is not difinitive.

slinky

I'm of the camp that thinks a double breasted suit fattens a fat person....not to mention that it makes you look like Captain Steubing

 

[waka]

This is pathetic. The profession is in the crapper and we're arguing about hats. Just put the damned thing on if it's required and stop whining. If it's not required, then do whatever the hell you want and stop telling me that my hat is "outdated."

Lighten up Francis.

What is really pathetic is you pointing out that this argument is pathetic. Is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to read the entire thread? If you don't like it, moving on is a click away.

Yeah, industry is in the crapper. Does that mean that all other topics are off limits Mr. Topic Police? What's next? "No laughing"?:laugh:

BTW;
Your hat.....it's outdated!

 

[PCL_128]

BTW;
Your hat.....it's outdated!

And you look like a male flight attendant without yours.