Central Air down near KC

[wlacy]

I'm entirely too drunk to be posting on a forum of this gravity.

How could ANYONE give a second thought to some Dbag with the username One Hundred and a Half? I not only disagree with anything and everything that One Hundred and a Half has to say, but also am stunned that anyone would give him the time of their day. 100-1/2 your calls for reform are behind a screenname that implies breaking the rules and taking unneccesary risks. You should be taken out back and have your kneecaps broken with a ball-peen hammer

 

[Browntothebone]

http://www.legacy.com/KansasCity/DeathNotices.asp?Page=Lifestory&PersonId=112622589

 

[CaravanMan]

http://www.legacy.com/KansasCity/DeathNotices.asp?Page=Lifestory&PersonId=112622589

I'll be there.

 

[waka]

100-1/2, stop talking out of your ass, amateur.

btw; work on your writing skills....namely, syntax and sentence structure.

 

[Way2Broke]

Preliminary Report Is Out

NTSB Identification: DEN08FA114
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Tuesday, June 24, 2008 in Linwood, KS
Aircraft: Aero Commander 500S, registration: N411JT
Injuries: 2 Fatal.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.
On June 24, 2008, at 1020 central daylight time, an Aero Commander 500S, N411JT, registered to and operated by Central Airlines and doing business as Central Air Southwest, was destroyed when the it impacted terrain following a dual engine loss of power while maneuvering near Linwood, Kansas. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident. The training flight was being conducted under the provisions of Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 91 without a flight plan. The two commercial pilots on board the airplane, the company's chief pilot and a pilot-in-training, were fatally injured. The local flight originated at 0927 from Charles B. Wheeler Downtown Airport (MKC), Kansas City, Missouri.

According to surveyors who were parked on a road adjacent to the accident site, they observed the airplane approaching at a low altitude. They said both engines were running, but then the engines began to sputter and "everything went silent." The airplane then nosed down and impacted an open field.

Downloaded GPS (Global Positioning System) data indicates the airplane took off and flew over to Topeka, Kansas, before doing a touch-and-go landing at Lawrence, Kansas. The airplane then proceeded to a practice area where it performed a steep turn to the left, followed by a steep turn to the right. The airplane's altitude was already low and its airspeed decreased considerably before data stopped recording. The airplane impacted the ground in a 53-degree nose down attitude. The landing gear was down and the flaps were at the approach setting.

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

The bullsh!t about it is, that the piece of $h!t is tracked by a GPS sat, yet it doesn't have any equipment that uses GPS satellites. ...
HHHMMMM.

PtP

 

[Way2Broke]

The bullsh!t about it is, that the piece of $h!t is tracked by a GPS sat, yet it doesn't have any equipment that uses GPS satellites. ...
HHHMMMM.

PtP

All of Central's planes have GPS.

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

What is it? A Garmin. Please explain.
PtP

 

[Way2Broke]

Panel mounted VFR GPS. (If someone cares to chime in with details please do, it's been 4 years) If used right it was a darn good backup. I don't know how anyone in their right mind could call a Twin Commander a POS. People are forgetting two people lost their lives in the crash. When did GPS become required equipment? Central gave you alot of weapons in you bag to go to battle with for that level of flying; strike finder, TKS, and GPS. The only thing you might go without sometimes was a heater, which only added character.

 

[Tug Driver]

i believe it is the garmin 150

 

[Firefly]

Central Air got recent FAA approval to install Garmin 396's. The planes already have Garmin 150's. 411JT had the 396 installed. I'm sure the NTSB used the track feature on the 396 to get the flight path data.

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

I apologize, didn't mean to try and discount the lives lost. Sorry, never worked there, but a friend who did his time there told me that they were pretty lousy. We grew up there and it was a long time ago when he flew there.

Didn't mean to affend any "professionals."

Sad to see more pilots die in planes.

PtP

 

[CaravanMan]

Didn't mean to affend any "professionals."

Then you type that?

The Garmin 150 did exactly what it was supposed to do. Get you from point A to point B. It's not an IFR GPS so don't shoot an approach with it, but most places CASW flew when I worked there had an ILS. If your friend was expecting more from that "lousy" GPS then maybe he's to blame? How many other freight companies put at least a VFR GPS in for their guys? Sure beats flying Airways.

 

[1013dot25hPa]

The passing of Murray Brown and his trainee comes as a complete shock to me.

I too flew for CASW flying through northern MI based in YIP in the middle of winter. Murray was a voice of reason within the company. Always cool, calm and collected. Nothing got him excited. If I told him that I needed to delay the flight due to wx etc., he never doubted my decission. He always backed up the flightcrews and never took the side of the sometimes unreasonable and pushy customers. A rarity in the world of scheduled and on-demand Pt. 135 flying.

I whish the families & friends of Murray & that of the unknown trainee and the CASW employees all the best during this difficult time.

Both of you guy's will be missed. RIP.