AirTran Pilots Fired!!!!!!!

[carl p]

Bottom line, from someone on the chopping block, no concessions! Sure sounds like a different place than the one who spent the first day giving us the sunshine pump and koolaid enema. I would love to chat with the gal Denise about what a great company we work for now.

 

[CitationLover]

sorry to hear what is happening at AAI.

absolute horse shiite if they fire people.

 

[Lear70]

Why on earth would you have something in your contract that would require your company to furlough instructors first? Why aren't the instructors Non-seniority-list instructors? Delta and NW I know do this. You need instructors on a downturn as well as an upturn. Your instructors (NSLIs) should be a seperate work force subject to it's own ups and downs. I think this provision in your contract has screwed the new hires. Managments, like pilots will always find a way to exploit a contract.

Short-sighted, aren't we?

Because, in the beginning, all instructors, including Line Check Airmen and sim instructors, WERE LINE PILOTS.

The union gave the company relief many years ago during the last contract negotiations to use NSLI's. It was INTENDED to be a short-term measure, not the permanent position it has become. That's why the contract also contains entries that ANY pilot may refuse a checkride by a retired instructor and opt for a checkride by a Seniority List instructor or the FAA instead (I don't know when this has been used, if ever, but the allowance is there).

By requiring the termination of NSLI's, about 14-15 guys, you save 14-15 pilot jobs as the training center MUST be staffed, and line pilots can bid into the training center (quite a few people want it, especially people who live locally), thus reducing the number of furloughs. This also costs the company quite a bit of money if the people who bid into the training center are Captains.

It's a job protection measure for seniority list pilots. No one imagined the company would hold a junior portion of the pilot group hostage for a contract item like this. It's a terrorist action, it's absolutely despicable, and anyone who defends it should be dragged out into the street, castrated, drawn, quartered, and shot.

Is that clear enough?

 

[Lear70]

Bottom line, from someone on the chopping block, no concessions! Sure sounds like a different place than the one who spent the first day giving us the sunshine pump and koolaid enema. I would love to chat with the gal Denise about what a great company we work for now.

Yeah, I'm wondering how the company will defend against this one at future career fairs.

They'll have a hard time hiring anything but VERY inexperienced regional pilots after this debacle...

 

[xray678]

the Airtran pilots, as a group, should refuse to go to a sim run by one of the retired instructors. Take away the companies reason to keep these guys.

I know having a sim with one of the retired guys would make me sick.....too sick to have a sim that day.

 

[BoilerUP]

I've only flown on AirTran once...but after this news I won't be a paying passenger a 2nd time.

 

[zman]

Hold on as a guy on probation does this mean i wont be getting a raise??

 

[Hobiehawker]

Being layed-off and being fired are two different things.

To cut through all the language and interpretation, is it that Ait tran is furloughing 177 pilots on probation with NO recall rights? Is this basically whats happening?

 

[hockeypilot44]

Airtran will have no problem finding pilots when they start hiring again. Skybus, Go Jets, etc. have never had any problem finding pilots. Airtran will be no different.

 

[79%N1]

Airtran will have no problem finding pilots when they start hiring again. Skybus, Go Jets, etc. have never had any problem finding pilots. Airtran will be no different.

Or...............and call me crazy here............when/if they ever need pilots again...........they could just bring back the ones that already applied, interviewed, were hired and then flew the line as employees of the company!