Leave Fortune 100 for NJA?

[Buckeye]

Like Hugh said, I would apply, interview and then make your decision based on what you see. Talk to some NJ guys on here, preferably PM so that it doesn't get off topic. Everyone I have flown with is great and very professional. It is kinda of nice "jerking gear" again, no paper work to mess with. The time will come to upgrade, but its want you want and what fits your needs.

 

[Floyd94]

I left NJA for my current 91 job last year after the new contract was signed. It was a gamble, and so far it has payed off. Big time. I can't imagine going back to that 7n7 schedule. Not to mention that I now fly in a month what I would have flown in a week at NJA.

just my .02

 

[learflyer]

I left NJA for my current 91 job last year after the new contract was signed. It was a gamble, and so far it has payed off. Big time. I can't imagine going back to that 7n7 schedule. Not to mention that I now fly in a month what I would have flown in a week at NJA.

just my .02

Jimmy V is watching over you.....I'm glad you're happy at your new job.

 

[FlyingPieceOfSt]

I left NJA for my current 91 job last year after the new contract was signed. It was a gamble, and so far it has payed off. Big time. I can't imagine going back to that 7n7 schedule. Not to mention that I now fly in a month what I would have flown in a week at NJA.

just my .02

:beer:

Amen Brother, congrats! Welcome to the rest of your life! You will find more peace in your life.

Be Safe

 

[xpdriver]

The only way you"ll know if you made the right decision is when you retire. I"m bias(current NJA) but I would not bet my future on any airline or part 91 company. The first thing to always go is the flight dept. It might take 5 years or more to upgrade but you can make 100 grand as a FO. No one in the business comes close to our benefits.If you have 35 years until 65. I would go to NJA.. MY 2 cents...

 

[White Feather]

No one in the business comes close to our benefits.

My company offers a fully funded pension AND a matching 401K. Also, we have medical benefits after retirement - for life.

That's not too shabby. Still, every job has its trade-offs. The NJA salary is pretty hard to beat after you've been there a while.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

The first thing to always go is the flight dept.

Common misconception.

 

[xpdriver]

My company offers a fully funded pension AND a matching 401K. Also, we have medical benefits after retirement - for life.

That's not too shabby. Still, every job has its trade-offs. The NJA salary is pretty hard to beat after you've been there a while.

Just remember the pension is company property and they can take it anytime they want..Again when the bean counters look at 50 million in aircraft and times are bad they tend to boot the aircraft. That has been my experience and with people i'm friends with..But again if you like it there. I'm happy for ya..If ya have the chance to work for NJA i would not turn it down..

 

[willNOTfly4free]

The first thing to always go is the flight dept.

Always? Come on.

 

[xpdriver]

Always? Come on.

Guys come on..You know what i'm saying....You right not EVERY time but is it worth the risk?


Everytime Warren buys a company the flying goes to NJA granted he owns NJA..but mergers,buyout etc...

All i'm saying is NJa is a better bet than almost any part 91 company....

 

[skiandsurf]

A couple of weeks ago, I was at a Citation Service Center, and got talking to a Part 91, C750 capt. This guys job sounded terrible. He was telling us that he is the 5th or 6th PIC that these people have hired, all the others have quit. Sure it is a single pilot operation....the owner is the "other pilot".

Sure this is a different situation, but it is still part 91......you can have it.

And BTW, I am on day 11 of my 19 day vacation.

I am biased to NJs.

 

[xpdriver]

A couple of weeks ago, I was at a Citation Service Center, and got talking to a Part 91, C750 capt. This guys job sounded terrible. He was telling us that he is the 5th or 6th PIC that these people have hired, all the others have quit. Sure it is a single pilot operation....the owner is the "other pilot".

Sure this is a different situation, but it is still part 91......you can have it.

And BTW, I am on day 11 of my 19 day vacation.

I am biased to NJs.

I'm on day 15 of 21.....

 

[FurloughedAgain]

got talking to a Part 91, C750 capt. This guys job sounded terrible. He was telling us that he is the 5th or 6th PIC that these people have hired, all the others have quit. Sure it is a single pilot operation....the owner is the "other pilot".

Sure this is a different situation, but it is still part 91......you can have it.

There is a HUGE difference between single plane/single pilot part 91 and the part 91 flight departments of fortune 100 companies.

Exxon, Chevron, Conoco, Home Depot, Proctor and Gamble, Johnson and Johnson... and hundreds more corporations that rely upon corporate aviation to get the job done. Some of the Fortune 100 have large numbers of airplanes and quite a few pilots, schedulers, dispatchers, flight followers... you name it!

Beyond some number of flight-hours per year it becomes smarter, economically to own than rent.

 

[CA1900]

Beyond some number of flight-hours per year it becomes smarter, economically to own than rent.

Exactly! Thread over.

For the couple we took to go golfing today, who fly a couple of times a month, their Marquis card is the perfect option for them. Owning a plane would be complete overkill.

For the corporation that flies executives around many times a week for business, and brings them back to base that night (or maybe the next)? A private flight department makes much more sense.

Many companies do both: they have their own large flight department, but also own a share in a fractional to cover unusual one-offs or peak demand that their own department can't cover (or would waste a lot of money covering). Some also use us so they can give their own guys the holidays off. Everybody wins.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Guys come on..You know what i'm saying....You right not EVERY time but is it worth the risk?


Everytime Warren buys a company the flying goes to NJA granted he owns NJA..but mergers,buyout etc...

All i'm saying is NJa is a better bet than almost any part 91 company....

Almost any?

I work for a very average PT 91 department, and I would certainly not want to go to Netjets.

7 days of 5 leg trips? min rest? no thanks!....Aspen, Palm Beach, Teterboro...no thanks! It would take 3 of the 7 days off just to recover. We start guys at 125K (plus possible bonus/stock) and thats really not too competitive these days.

How long does it take a Netjet new hire to get to 150K, work an average of 10 days a month, and get 4 weeks vacation? These are pretty common Pt91 starting numbers these days.

And as far as the stability? - I really hope you dont think that Netjets is any more stable than a PT91 job....thats essentially what you are!

The fight department first to go? is this 1985?

As much as the economy has been strained lately, how many F200 departments have shut down, or even slowed their flying? Do they just give up and stop traveling around the world to make money?

Its great you like your job, but I hope you realize we are are ALL pretty much in the same boat.