USAPA sues some America West Pilots

[MCDU]

PFT_128 is still sending the Gulfstream Academy monthly checks.
He still owes them alot. Don't expect this PFT puke to send much. Lots of talk from a loser who paid a scab (COOPER) to advance his career by buying it. So much for integrity .

Someone needs to quote this.

 

[SaturnPilot]

PFT_128 is still sending the Gulfstream Academy monthly checks.
He still owes them alot. Don't expect this PFT puke to send much. Lots of talk from a loser who paid a scab (COOPER) to advance his career by buying it. So much for integrity .

Someone needs to quote this.

I'll quote it for you, Marty!

Was there a lot of anti-PFT sentiment in your United new hire class in 1993, your other United new hire class in 1994, while flying at USAir, or for Chip flying at whatever airline(s) he flies at?

USAir was not going out of business. USAir was in better shape then your 1980's startup airline. I had America West Capt. in my new hire class in 1994 and he said that Americas Worst was going to shut down or merged.
Americas Worst is and was a joke. I am just glad you guys merged with AAA. My worst nightmare was when every one speculated United and Americas Worst were going to merge.

Americas Worst=Bottom feeder were the turn over rate was so big, you had classes every week to fill the attrition in the late 90's.

Marty

CAL is getting ready to merge with United. I think their might be furloughs or some stagnation. Where would a 1993 DOH put me at CAL.

Marty

USAIR is still short for current flying. We are flying 90 plus hours and certain days there are no reserves. Reserves are timing out.Last bid award for jul and aug still showed vacancies on the 737 190 and little bus.
During the last few months USAIR EAST is shrinking to minimum fleet. 208 planes plus about 18 190's. (190 do not count).

There has been no growth. We are half the size we used to be . (415 planes down to 208 plus 18 190's).
All flying replaced by RJ's and E 170/175.

All hiring and recalls are because people have left. The seniority numbers need to be redone. Actual working pilots EAST 2800 pilots. The SL has about 200 pilots less then the 3600 people mention.

Marty

How old are you? You seem to be clueless.

Chip

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1212983#post1212983
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1224345#post1224345
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1606415#post1606415
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1610483#post1610483

 

[PCL_128]

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[Tejas-Jet]

Hey Doug Parker question for you......which union on your property has the votes/power as far as pilots are concerned??? I guess that is the union you will be dealing with. Reality!!

in reality, Doug has to negotiate with the representative organization that the NMB has certified as getting the most votes during the election a couple of months ago...

 

[eaglesview]

in reality, Doug has to negotiate with the representative organization that the NMB has certified as getting the most votes during the election a couple of months ago...

That's what I am saying. I agree

 

[Snakum]

Wow ... PCL_128 isn't even in ALPA anymore and he's still over here ranting and raving. For a PFT Gulfstreamer you sure did 'see the light' didn't you? After 'you got yours' of course.

Have you no shame? Seriously. You got issues, my man.

 

[737 Pylt]

I'll quote it for you, Marty!

Was there a lot of anti-PFT sentiment in your United new hire class in 1993, your other United new hire class in 1994, while flying at USAir, or for Chip flying at whatever airline(s) he flies at?







http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1212983#post1212983
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1224345#post1224345
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1606415#post1606415
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1610483#post1610483

Classic!
I wonder if Marty ever gave Steven (Bdfg1) his letterman's ring back?

Marty knows how to get jobs with the best of them.....He just waits til there's a strike, and goes to work!
That's how he got his first rEAL job, just ask him!

737

 

[Tejas-Jet]

PCL;
I'm sorry that it took so long to get back to you. My information is that there is no PayPal account set up at this time. If you still wish to help, this is the address to send contribution to:

“AWA PILOTS LEGAL EXPENSE TRUST”
3626 WEST GLASS LANE
PHOENIX, ARIZONA 85041

Again, thank you for your concern and commentary.

Regards.

OK...but where is the AWAPPPA in all this? Haven't you guys been sending them money all this time? Why do you need the extra $$$ ?

 

[eaglesview]

OK...but where is the AWAPPPA in all this? Haven't you guys been sending them money all this time? Why do you need the extra $$$ ?

They're probably at the post office or on the phone.

 

[TWA Dude]

OK...but where is the AWAPPPA in all this?

AWAPPA's purpose is to defend the binding arbitration not every lawsuit UCRAPA fires out. The named defendents who are not AWAPPA directors have banded together for their own representation.

 

[eaglesview]

AWAPPA's purpose is to defend the binding arbitration not every lawsuit UCRAPA fires out. The named defendents who are not AWAPPA directors have banded together for their own representation.

Talk about leaving your own out in the cold, isn't that what you accuse the east of?? Interesting

 

[TWA Dude]

Talk about leaving your own out in the cold, isn't that what you accuse the east of??

Huh? AWAPPA didn't tell anybody to commit the alleged incidents. Plus, AWAPPA's funding comes from voluntary contributions. So too will the defence fund.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Did you guys get it all figured out yet?

500 posts, 10,000+ reads... you must be close?

 

[CopilotDoug]

I'm not worried. UAL won't be going anywhere.

And then:

There is distinct possibility that UAL could go Chapter 7 within the next year...

I knew we could agree on some issues

 

[scurvy]

Good idea.

 

[PCL_128]

And then:
I knew we could agree on some issues

Things change. It's not looking good for UAL right now.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Things change. It's not looking good for UAL right now.

Keep those words in mind grasshopper....

 

[Colonel Savage]

Things change. It's not looking good for UAL right now.

AMR neighbor said could be a matter of weeks for the big seven at UAL. Just passin' that along.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Reality is that dougie wins as long as the pilots are fighting each other.

Reality is that both sides need each other and are in this together.

Reality is that our concept of seniority is being used against us and we're giving up leverage every day b/c there has been no leadership in addressing the problem.

Reality is that the airline cannot run w/o the America West pilots.
If i were them- i'd sue the airline, not alpa. They accepted the Nic award as the list- it's time to motivate LCC to implement it- it won't happen until a LOT of money's at stake. You got to punch the bullies in the nose-
Furloughs are happening- Not one of you should be flying your line fat and happy, head in the sand. All of you are setting your life up for life w/o LCC- and if you're not- you don't like your family very much- i'd draw the line in the sand and RLA or no RLA- tell mgmt that you're walking on xx date- and then do it. They can't throw you in jail for quitting. Anyone who thinks our career issues won't be solved by some carrier willing to do this is naive. It's what Behncke did when he walked in w/ resignation letters-- it's what we'll have to do- Every day you keep showing up-- what message are you sending?
Prepare now. Get your ducks in a row.

I think enough AWA pilots saw that same scenario go down at Ansett that you'd have a hard time selling it to them.

I don't see anything short of US liquidation that will rid them of the east-bola virus.

 

[PCL_128]

AMR neighbor said could be a matter of weeks for the big seven at UAL. Just passin' that along.

Why would your neighbor who works at AMR have any idea about what's going to happen at UAL?