Management threatens NPA again!

[Freight Dog]

Actually, if you get terminated, you won't lose your unemployment benefits. 300+ Aloha pilots were TERMINATED, not furloughed, out of seniority, and we all got unemployment bennies.

Good luck boys and girls!

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Actually, if you get terminated, you won't lose your unemployment benefits. 300+ Aloha pilots were TERMINATED, not furloughed, out of seniority, and we all got unemployment bennies.

Good luck boys and girls!

What about Workforce investment act money? for job retraining?

 

[zman]

I'm sorry guys, but I'll be the one to say it. The retired training instructors need to go first. Even if it means the company firing the first year guys and gals. I understand first year pilots will be mad at me for saying this but right now this is not a good place to work for anyone on the seniority list. The only way to make it a good place is to first build a union that the company and its pilots actually respect. Respect will bring us training department positions for line pilots, respect will bring us bargaining power at the negotiating table. And the most important is that the pilot group will have confidence that our union leadership can make the hard decisions that will effect this pilot group in a postive way for many years to come instead of this sick cycle of folding on every hand.

I couldnt agree more, as a new guy who is still on probation I would rather see that happen then anything else. What saddens me as that these guys in the training department have had their share in this industry. Its time to step down and let others move into those positions.

 

[carl p]

This sure is not the company I thought I was coming to work for. At some point we have to make them take us seriously.

 

[CoolSidePillow]

This might be a question of ignorance but why does the company give a rip about old crones in the training dept that do not provide revenue like a flying pilot probie or not?

 

[Pilot Knob]

Because it is cheap labor. Paying the retired guys whatever they get paid is cheaper than a line pilot(especially a captain) to do the same job. Follow the money! Every decision this company makes is based on this premise.

 

[MINIME]

Concessions or no concessions, furloughs are arrived at by mathematical data. Even if you flew for free, and agreed to fire everyone they wished to, it would not be enough to avoid what could be the obvious.

 

[BR715]

The 75 year old retired guy in the training department, you know the one that goes by E.C. or E.S. should be embarassed to show up if we put guys on the street. I saying this guy has not flown for 15 years. What the hell can this guy possibly teach anyone anymore, how to walk with a cane and a 02 tank.

 

[zman]

LOL thats awsome!!!