Quitting your regional and then asking for your job back.

[PBRstreetgang]

He would have to credit 1042 hours a year to make $100,000 if that's his pay rate. Dubious claim at best, but looks good on the Internet. I'd love to see his schedule.

Now that he works at SKYW, the kool-aid IV has been inserted. SKYW hsa a fixture on the website that shows how much you cost the company, tallys everything including the projected toilet paper used while chitting on the airplane, due to chitty schedules. The memo detailing the use of no more 4 squares of TP is detailed also. There have been various toolbags on F/I who claim 6 figure incomes regularly, they are smoking the good stuff! I had a 975 block year(thanks to PBS), and only made 92K, and wanted to walk into a spinning Bazillia prop for most of the year. The claimants say JR manning every week, ect. I say B.S.!
PBR

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Probably bids overtime with guys on furlough.

 

[208starcheck]

75 hours (Guarantee) x 12 months = 900 hours. 900 hours x $96 = $86,400. That's just guarantee, no per diem, no profit sharing, stock options and no credits at all.

Add let's say 10 hours credit per month credit. (very, very easy to do with seniority).

10 hours x 12 mo = 120 hours. 120 hours x $96 = $11,520.
Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing, and stock options is $97,920.

15 hours x 12 mo = 180 hours. 180 hours x $96 =
$17,280. Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing and stock options is $103,680.

20 hours x 12 mo = 240 hours. 240 hours x $96 = $23,040. Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing and stock options is $109,440.

Add another $5,000 approximate for per diem to each. Another say $2000 for profit sharing (granted it's been weak lately). And another $1000 for stock options. All scenarios (except plain guarantee) easily take you over 6 figures without much extra help, especially if you fly high paying NAPS.

Trojan

I don't have a dog in this fight but I have to point out a problem in this post compared to the post you were agruing against. He said 1042 to break 100k. Your example of 900 hours plus the 20 hrs per month is a total of 1140 hours per year for a total of 109k (without extras)

Your example of 120 or 180 hours is closer to the 1042 hrs per year to get close/over 100k. Basically you stated exactly what Box Office said. Sounds like you agree.

 

[USCtrojan]

I don't have a dog in this fight but I have to point out a problem in this post compared to the post you were agruing against. He said 1042 to break 100k. Your example of 900 hours plus the 20 hrs per month is a total of 1140 hours per year for a total of 109k (without extras)

Your example of 120 or 180 hours is closer to the 1042 hrs per year to get close/over 100k. Basically you stated exactly what Box Office said. Sounds like you agree.

I understand your post and you are correct. However, Guarantee = 75 hours. Nap lines at ASA usually fly 30-35 hours monthly and credit over 90 hours sometimes 100 (pending on seniority and what you can hold). 35 hrs x 12 = 420 hours total for the year making 6 digits (adding all credits/perdiem/stock options etc.....) So essentially, seniority at ASA flying nap lines could easily gross you over 6 digits with 420 hrs/per year (give or take a few there).

Trojan

 

[regionalcap]

I understand your post and you are correct. However, Guarantee = 75 hours. Nap lines at ASA usually fly 30-35 hours monthly and credit over 90 hours sometimes 100 (pending on seniority and what you can hold). 35 hrs x 12 = 420 hours total for the year making 6 digits (adding all credits/perdiem/stock options etc.....) So essentially, seniority at ASA flying nap lines could easily gross you over 6 digits with 420 hrs/per year (give or take a few there).

Trojan

It must have really changed with the new contract. When I was there, you could only get about 80 hours credit doing nap lines.

 

[USCtrojan]

It must have really changed with the new contract. When I was there, you could only get about 80 hours credit doing nap lines.

Yes it has. Premium (the old way) is gone forever. Now we have duty rigs which credit naps sometimes over 100 hours of pay.

Trojan

 

[No.W.]

Last year at SkyWest for me:

(5 years or so after hire, CRJ Captain, directly from end of year compensation report)

Financial Performance Reward: $3471.14
Operational Performance Reward: $600.00
Perdiem: $5173.74
Hourly: $80805.16
Total Credit Hours: 1266.10
Total Block Hours: 871.82

I bid reserve.

I work my tail off...but I get weekends off and that makes me happy. I typically break guarantee(yes even now when we are fat), and I get a lot of "soft" credit(DH, reserve pay from breaking guarantee, etc.). I also fly on my days off(typically twice a month). It's not for everyone, and I know most of you will think I'm crazy for working so 'hard'. However, when you have worked blue collar factory jobs, it doesn't feel like you are working that hard. I'd love to fly high paying locals 3 times a week, but I don't have the seniority. Doing 90k on $64 bucks and hour or so is not bad.

 

[siucavflight]

You are worth a lot more, check out flying in the mid East.

 

[No.W.]

You are worth a lot more, check out flying in the mid East.

I have.

It's on the table...the wife has to finish her residency first.

Then we may move...but that's quite a life change for two folks who like to be near family. Compensation is awesome, though.

 

[JumpersAway]

To be fair, anyone working for a regional who doesn't exhibit an extreme willingness to leave for greener pastures should have their medical revoked.

For many who got stuck at a regional post 9-11, it's not worth it, nor does it make any sense, to move on to a regional. For many, it would take 12 years to just break even and make up lost income, let alone the loss of quality of life, vacation, seniority, etc........

The majors aren't the glamour job of old. Time's have changed- for the worse. Anybody that has made the jump to a major (any of them) in the last year is staring a furlough square in the face........Unfortunately......

 

[Windsor]

For many who got stuck at a regional post 9-11, it's not worth it, nor does it make any sense, to move on to a regional. For many, it would take 12 years to just break even and make up lost income, let alone the loss of quality of life, vacation, seniority, etc........

The majors aren't the glamour job of old. Time's have changed- for the worse. Anybody that has made the jump to a major (any of them) in the last year is staring a furlough square in the face........Unfortunately......

AMEN to that! The so called "Major's" are not what they were 10 years ago. It used to be a pretty sweet job, but all of the concessionary contracts signed in the last decade have eroded that lifestyle away.

For the guys that have been at a regional for quite some time, built up a decent paycheck and quality of life, why flush it down the toilet chasing some "dream" job that is evaporating right before our eyes?

 

[rumrnr78]

Did anybody read my post? I gave a ASA payscale of 18 years!!! F'n 18 years! Not an RJ captain who has been there 5 plus! Jesus, the payscales make me sick.
And, have you flown naps? Talk about the walking wounded, no thanks. Been there and done that too much!! Flying at a regional, as a career, will only wear you out! I was a late bloomer myself getting hired in my early 30's but I knew that it was quality of life (and pay) that would be the motivator to leave! I dealt with Georgia in scheduling! Think I want to deal with that skank in my mid-fifties? No way! And, don't say she left cause she will be replaced with another HS educated loser who is paid to "F" with those who have educated and sacrificed themselves to get to their current position.

And to the troll who mentioned about flying the rich- thank God for them! At least they are paying the money for the flight, at the airlines they make the employee subsidize the flight! Oh, and after the great crew meals and hotel/airline points, you will never miss jumpseating and getting bumped!

Seniority at ASA is only one RFP from ending. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Cheers- Rum

 

[scarlet]

yeah and about 10-25 senior guys get that kind of Sch. I don't think everyone in the company is getting paid 100 hours a month.

Sept. and Oct. ALL airlines are going to be cutting back !!!

DL/NW going to get real ugly...when MEM and CVG closes the doors....

Hopefully ASA will get those 90s from Pinn..

 

[USCtrojan]

Okay, settle down now. With all that knowledge and bravado, why don't you pick up a guitar and play an arena? You'll make millions and won't have to subject yourself to all this "industry stress?"

The industry has CHANGED FOREVER. You want me to risk my income, family, lifestyle because "regionals are lame." Listen to yourself. Talk to any pilots in this industry that are happy (ESPECIALLY Major Airline pilots?) I've been at my REGIONAL for 12 years. Great schedules, now great leadership, life is good. I should give that up? GFY. For the record, my QOL is great. My income is adequate, sure as he!! beats unemployment. God bless anybody that wants to take on the risk of "flying for a Major." I hope you're single and can endure the hardship (I certainly don't wish it upon you). The Industry is what it is, make your choice and live with it. You move on, you also inherit the consequences of that choice.

Trojan

 

[say again]

I have no other skills but flying!!! haha. It seemed like a great idea back in '99. Its hard to teach an old dog new tricks, and I know that first hand. Anyone with ideas (supplemental income) don't hesitate to pass them on this way.