Quitting your regional and then asking for your job back.

[WalterSobchak]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

I didn't know General Lee had a 3rd login...

 

[SilverandSore]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

Yeah, and your girlfriend is ugly!

 

[Abernathy]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

And if he went to United, Continental, USDespAir, or American, he would have been furloughed. Probably twice. Staying at a regional and building up seniority rather than giving it up for a crapshoot is probably the smartest thing you can do right now. Unless you're moving overseas, and that's not everyone's cup of tea.

 

[greyskyracer]

Like many others, I quit my regional to go to another job (supposedly better), and then was furloughed. I know that many that have quit their regional and gone off to United, American, etc. I would like to know if anyone has successfully gone back to their old job.
Thanks

Did you give 2 weeks or just piss all over your cp desk and say I'm out of here?

 

[rumrnr78]

......why is that....?

Some of us are happy with 6 digit incomes and our choice of schedules.....not to mention not getting furloughed....

I don't understand your position and then the fact that you all want back in when things go south......You've gone on to greener pastures....enjoy them....

Year 18 pay on the ATR/CRJ 200 96.00 per hour right? What kind of schedule are you flying to get over 6 figs and still have a life?

Cheers- Rum

 

[BOX OFFICE]

Year 18 pay on the ATR/CRJ 200 96.00 per hour right? What kind of schedule are you flying to get over 6 figs and still have a life?

Cheers- Rum

He would have to credit 1042 hours a year to make $100,000 if that's his pay rate. Dubious claim at best, but looks good on the Internet. I'd love to see his schedule.

 

[rogerwilcoout]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

Uh, I dont think you understand the climate of the mainlines nowadays. Jumpseated on an Airways 737 the other day. Crew had a 7 leg day. 12 year cpt at my airline on a 175 makes MORE than a 12 year cpt on a 190 at Airways. With the way the industry has turned and continues to evolve. Unless FedEx grants me an interview, my regional is where I stay.

 

[USCtrojan]

He would have to credit 1042 hours a year to make $100,000 if that's his pay rate. Dubious claim at best, but looks good on the Internet. I'd love to see his schedule.

75 hours (Guarantee) x 12 months = 900 hours. 900 hours x $96 = $86,400. That's just guarantee, no per diem, no profit sharing, stock options and no credits at all.

Add let's say 10 hours credit per month credit. (very, very easy to do with seniority).

10 hours x 12 mo = 120 hours. 120 hours x $96 = $11,520.
Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing, and stock options is $97,920.

15 hours x 12 mo = 180 hours. 180 hours x $96 =
$17,280. Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing and stock options is $103,680.

20 hours x 12 mo = 240 hours. 240 hours x $96 = $23,040. Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing and stock options is $109,440.

Add another $5,000 approximate for per diem to each. Another say $2000 for profit sharing (granted it's been weak lately). And another $1000 for stock options. All scenarios (except plain guarantee) easily take you over 6 figures without much extra help, especially if you fly high paying NAPS.

Trojan

 

[Abernathy]

He would have to credit 1042 hours a year to make $100,000 if that's his pay rate. Dubious claim at best, but looks good on the Internet. I'd love to see his schedule.

Duty Rigs with Nap Lines (100+ hours/month), Overblock, Per Diem, etc.

It's very possible. Especially if you're senior enough to consistently get your top few choices.

 

[Abernathy]

USCTrojan beat me to it. He even spelled it out for you.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

He would have to credit 1042 hours a year to make $100,000 if that's his pay rate. Dubious claim at best, but looks good on the Internet. I'd love to see his schedule.

Now that he works at SKYW, the kool-aid IV has been inserted. SKYW hsa a fixture on the website that shows how much you cost the company, tallys everything including the projected toilet paper used while chitting on the airplane, due to chitty schedules. The memo detailing the use of no more 4 squares of TP is detailed also. There have been various toolbags on F/I who claim 6 figure incomes regularly, they are smoking the good stuff! I had a 975 block year(thanks to PBS), and only made 92K, and wanted to walk into a spinning Bazillia prop for most of the year. The claimants say JR manning every week, ect. I say B.S.!
PBR

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Probably bids overtime with guys on furlough.

 

[208starcheck]

75 hours (Guarantee) x 12 months = 900 hours. 900 hours x $96 = $86,400. That's just guarantee, no per diem, no profit sharing, stock options and no credits at all.

Add let's say 10 hours credit per month credit. (very, very easy to do with seniority).

10 hours x 12 mo = 120 hours. 120 hours x $96 = $11,520.
Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing, and stock options is $97,920.

15 hours x 12 mo = 180 hours. 180 hours x $96 =
$17,280. Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing and stock options is $103,680.

20 hours x 12 mo = 240 hours. 240 hours x $96 = $23,040. Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing and stock options is $109,440.

Add another $5,000 approximate for per diem to each. Another say $2000 for profit sharing (granted it's been weak lately). And another $1000 for stock options. All scenarios (except plain guarantee) easily take you over 6 figures without much extra help, especially if you fly high paying NAPS.

Trojan

I don't have a dog in this fight but I have to point out a problem in this post compared to the post you were agruing against. He said 1042 to break 100k. Your example of 900 hours plus the 20 hrs per month is a total of 1140 hours per year for a total of 109k (without extras)

Your example of 120 or 180 hours is closer to the 1042 hrs per year to get close/over 100k. Basically you stated exactly what Box Office said. Sounds like you agree.

 

[USCtrojan]

I don't have a dog in this fight but I have to point out a problem in this post compared to the post you were agruing against. He said 1042 to break 100k. Your example of 900 hours plus the 20 hrs per month is a total of 1140 hours per year for a total of 109k (without extras)

Your example of 120 or 180 hours is closer to the 1042 hrs per year to get close/over 100k. Basically you stated exactly what Box Office said. Sounds like you agree.

I understand your post and you are correct. However, Guarantee = 75 hours. Nap lines at ASA usually fly 30-35 hours monthly and credit over 90 hours sometimes 100 (pending on seniority and what you can hold). 35 hrs x 12 = 420 hours total for the year making 6 digits (adding all credits/perdiem/stock options etc.....) So essentially, seniority at ASA flying nap lines could easily gross you over 6 digits with 420 hrs/per year (give or take a few there).

Trojan

 

[regionalcap]

I understand your post and you are correct. However, Guarantee = 75 hours. Nap lines at ASA usually fly 30-35 hours monthly and credit over 90 hours sometimes 100 (pending on seniority and what you can hold). 35 hrs x 12 = 420 hours total for the year making 6 digits (adding all credits/perdiem/stock options etc.....) So essentially, seniority at ASA flying nap lines could easily gross you over 6 digits with 420 hrs/per year (give or take a few there).

Trojan

It must have really changed with the new contract. When I was there, you could only get about 80 hours credit doing nap lines.

 

[USCtrojan]

It must have really changed with the new contract. When I was there, you could only get about 80 hours credit doing nap lines.

Yes it has. Premium (the old way) is gone forever. Now we have duty rigs which credit naps sometimes over 100 hours of pay.

Trojan

 

[No.W.]

Last year at SkyWest for me:

(5 years or so after hire, CRJ Captain, directly from end of year compensation report)

Financial Performance Reward: $3471.14
Operational Performance Reward: $600.00
Perdiem: $5173.74
Hourly: $80805.16
Total Credit Hours: 1266.10
Total Block Hours: 871.82

I bid reserve.

I work my tail off...but I get weekends off and that makes me happy. I typically break guarantee(yes even now when we are fat), and I get a lot of "soft" credit(DH, reserve pay from breaking guarantee, etc.). I also fly on my days off(typically twice a month). It's not for everyone, and I know most of you will think I'm crazy for working so 'hard'. However, when you have worked blue collar factory jobs, it doesn't feel like you are working that hard. I'd love to fly high paying locals 3 times a week, but I don't have the seniority. Doing 90k on $64 bucks and hour or so is not bad.

 

[siucavflight]

You are worth a lot more, check out flying in the mid East.

 

[No.W.]

You are worth a lot more, check out flying in the mid East.

I have.

It's on the table...the wife has to finish her residency first.

Then we may move...but that's quite a life change for two folks who like to be near family. Compensation is awesome, though.

 

[JumpersAway]

To be fair, anyone working for a regional who doesn't exhibit an extreme willingness to leave for greener pastures should have their medical revoked.

For many who got stuck at a regional post 9-11, it's not worth it, nor does it make any sense, to move on to a regional. For many, it would take 12 years to just break even and make up lost income, let alone the loss of quality of life, vacation, seniority, etc........

The majors aren't the glamour job of old. Time's have changed- for the worse. Anybody that has made the jump to a major (any of them) in the last year is staring a furlough square in the face........Unfortunately......