Quitting your regional and then asking for your job back.

[spg2bmd]

Like many others, I quit my regional to go to another job (supposedly better), and then was furloughed. I know that many that have quit their regional and gone off to United, American, etc. I would like to know if anyone has successfully gone back to their old job.
Thanks

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Yes, at the bottom of the list........

 

[spg2bmd]

Do you know someone that has done this?

 

[Erlanger]

Do you know someone that has done this?

Yes, of course yes. We all know of atleast one pilot who over the past 7 or 8 years that has left a regional and returned after being furloughed, especially right after 9/11. Some have stayed but almost all will go back when called.

 

[spg2bmd]

what about recently, I can understand mesa letting people come back with their prior seniority or with a loss of seniority based on how long they were gone, but what about a company like skywest or asa? ever heard of a case?

 

[Erlanger]

what about recently, I can understand mesa letting people come back with their prior seniority or with a loss of seniority based on how long they were gone, but what about a company like skywest or asa? ever heard of a case?

After 9/11 many former Skywest pilots came back to Skywest. The went back to first year pay and at the bottom of the senority list. I think they got credit for some benefits for their former employment at Skywest, like vacation/sick accrual and 401k. United furloughees started at 2nd. year pay with United paying them the difference between what Skywest payed them for 1st. year pay and what 2nd year pay was. Other then that, they were all treated the same as anyone else and at their place on the senority list as far as jumpseating and upgrades. I remember one who was a RJ checkairman at Skywest once, then United F.O., then back to Skywest as a RJ F.O. He's back at United now...for now. Most furloughees have since gone back to their respective mainline carrier.

 

[spg2bmd]

Not what I wanted to hear, but what I expect to be the case. Thanks Erlanger

 

[JoeMerchant]

Not what I wanted to hear, but what I expect to be the case. Thanks Erlanger

....what did you expect? Did you actually think you could come back at your old position? What happens to you folks who move on to greener pastures? When things don't work out....you want to take a muligan.....That's not how it works....

Now if you want to work on a better system....then I'm all for it.....

 

[spg2bmd]

Kind words, thanks buddy.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Kind words, thanks buddy.

....seriously...what did you expect? You do understand the seniority system don't you? Do you think it doesn't apply to you because you moved on?

I have empathy...but did you ever try to reform YOUR union which created this silly system?

Don't paint me as the bad guy here....You want special consideration....Why?

 

[spg2bmd]

Thats not what I was asking exactly. Have a nice day.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Thats not what I was asking exactly. Have a nice day.

You asked if people have come back....The answer is yes...but at the bottom....You then said "that wasn't what you wanted to hear".....You seem to want something other than newhire status.....

Sorry that is how it works...Maybe some will start to rethink how silly this whole system is......

You shouldn't HAVE to start over.....If you want to change things then take a stand and lets change it....otherwise put on your big girl panties and deal with it....Sorry for being blunt.....

 

[TheRaven]

I would like to know if anyone has successfully gone back to their old job.
Thanks

So you think you actually had a chance of leaving the property, then returning and getting your seniority back.......why would that be fair to anyone that was previously junior to you?

I think you'd be lucky to get the job back at all, as you have already displayed an extreme willingness to leave for greener pastures.

 

[Varmint]

Thats not what I was asking exactly. Have a nice day.

You have to be a split tail and have done some huge favors for the higher ups to have that happen.

 

[imacdog]

I think you'd be lucky to get the job back at all, as you have already displayed an extreme willingness to leave for greener pastures.

To be fair, anyone working for a regional who doesn't exhibit an extreme willingness to leave for greener pastures should have their medical revoked.

 

[JoeMerchant]

To be fair, anyone working for a regional who doesn't exhibit an extreme willingness to leave for greener pastures should have their medical revoked.

......why is that....?

Some of us are happy with 6 digit incomes and our choice of schedules.....not to mention not getting furloughed....

I don't understand your position and then the fact that you all want back in when things go south......You've gone on to greener pastures....enjoy them....

 

[imacdog]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

 

[Longhorn]

Keep in mind that a lot of airlines, not only regionals, have a no rehire policy. Many make it a policy to not re-hire you if you leave for something else.

 

[BigPappa]

IMACDOG, You moved on to be a slave to the RICH so that you can make a little bit more money. How does it feel to be the Biatch to the rich? Now go back to flying your slowtation.

 

[siucavflight]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

Wow, this is a little narrow sighted. Just because the flying for you was not enjoyable does not mean that it is not the right choice for others. I left Eagle to fly Legacys in the middle east, I have to say that although I enjoy this job many dont. It is all about the type of person that you are.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

I didn't know General Lee had a 3rd login...

 

[SilverandSore]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

Yeah, and your girlfriend is ugly!

 

[Abernathy]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

And if he went to United, Continental, USDespAir, or American, he would have been furloughed. Probably twice. Staying at a regional and building up seniority rather than giving it up for a crapshoot is probably the smartest thing you can do right now. Unless you're moving overseas, and that's not everyone's cup of tea.

 

[greyskyracer]

Like many others, I quit my regional to go to another job (supposedly better), and then was furloughed. I know that many that have quit their regional and gone off to United, American, etc. I would like to know if anyone has successfully gone back to their old job.
Thanks

Did you give 2 weeks or just piss all over your cp desk and say I'm out of here?

 

[rumrnr78]

......why is that....?

Some of us are happy with 6 digit incomes and our choice of schedules.....not to mention not getting furloughed....

I don't understand your position and then the fact that you all want back in when things go south......You've gone on to greener pastures....enjoy them....

Year 18 pay on the ATR/CRJ 200 96.00 per hour right? What kind of schedule are you flying to get over 6 figs and still have a life?

Cheers- Rum

 

[BOX OFFICE]

Year 18 pay on the ATR/CRJ 200 96.00 per hour right? What kind of schedule are you flying to get over 6 figs and still have a life?

Cheers- Rum

He would have to credit 1042 hours a year to make $100,000 if that's his pay rate. Dubious claim at best, but looks good on the Internet. I'd love to see his schedule.

 

[rogerwilcoout]

Yep, you've stayed with your regional for how long before barely cresting the six digit mark? Not to mention all those years of accruing longevity and seniority could be wiped away with the next RFP. But I guess if you enjoy flying 6 legs a day to the same craphole destinations with your company's solvency dependant on how cheap they can move planes from point A to point BFE then have fun at it.

Uh, I dont think you understand the climate of the mainlines nowadays. Jumpseated on an Airways 737 the other day. Crew had a 7 leg day. 12 year cpt at my airline on a 175 makes MORE than a 12 year cpt on a 190 at Airways. With the way the industry has turned and continues to evolve. Unless FedEx grants me an interview, my regional is where I stay.

 

[USCtrojan]

He would have to credit 1042 hours a year to make $100,000 if that's his pay rate. Dubious claim at best, but looks good on the Internet. I'd love to see his schedule.

75 hours (Guarantee) x 12 months = 900 hours. 900 hours x $96 = $86,400. That's just guarantee, no per diem, no profit sharing, stock options and no credits at all.

Add let's say 10 hours credit per month credit. (very, very easy to do with seniority).

10 hours x 12 mo = 120 hours. 120 hours x $96 = $11,520.
Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing, and stock options is $97,920.

15 hours x 12 mo = 180 hours. 180 hours x $96 =
$17,280. Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing and stock options is $103,680.

20 hours x 12 mo = 240 hours. 240 hours x $96 = $23,040. Total compensation without per diem, profit sharing and stock options is $109,440.

Add another $5,000 approximate for per diem to each. Another say $2000 for profit sharing (granted it's been weak lately). And another $1000 for stock options. All scenarios (except plain guarantee) easily take you over 6 figures without much extra help, especially if you fly high paying NAPS.

Trojan

 

[Abernathy]

He would have to credit 1042 hours a year to make $100,000 if that's his pay rate. Dubious claim at best, but looks good on the Internet. I'd love to see his schedule.

Duty Rigs with Nap Lines (100+ hours/month), Overblock, Per Diem, etc.

It's very possible. Especially if you're senior enough to consistently get your top few choices.

 

[Abernathy]

USCTrojan beat me to it. He even spelled it out for you.