Worst. Airline. Ever (United)

[eaglesview]

The only reason they are doing that is to get qualified for the UAL job that no longer exists. They cut themselves off at the knees b/c if they get too strong=- a la comair, awac, aca- their jobs get eliminated- and they have to go sling gear for rookies at the next 'regional'-- and when they get too strong.... the cycle repeats... it's not the pilots undercutting = it's the management's - the responsibility is on you to bring them all in under your own umbrella-- and until you do--- you'll see more paycuts yourself as more and more of those disenfranchised pilots choose to go work for VA and Jblu and definitely SWA... but then again-- aren't you attempting to cut SWA pilots off at the knees w/ your payrates?

"regional" pilots never got a vote in scope. 80-90% want a stable major airline job-- something that scope violations prevent...

Weak at best.

 

[dispatchguy]

Wasnt United called Yo-nited?

 

[waveflyer]

Weak at best.

I agree, you have been weak. Very, very weak. And you've compromised the pilot profession b/c of it. Scope is everything and don't forget it.

And what are you doing if you're NOT undercutting SWA's rates and work rules? (<-- this is sarcastic flame based on many of our esteemed pilots- the biggest point i have is the importance of scope and how giving away those jobs has affected ALL of us. I don't see how that can be argued anymore... but some have their proverbial heads buried in the 90's)

 

[MountainFreak]

Wasnt United called Yo-nited?

Only by people who boned the interview.

 

[Peanut gallery]

And not to forget

Wasnt United called Yo-nited?

Untidy, and that we are.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Weak at best.

Nope.... in addition, ALPA needs to flatten its economic distribution of contracts.

Should fellow ALPA pilots qualify for gov't assistance while senior pilots are enjoying the best of the best?

Take CAL for example.... 6 months of no health insurance? The disparity between fellow pilots is unreal.

Finally, Starting pay at regionals should be about 30-40K. At the majors 60-70K. This would reduce the need for a national seniority list. Many pilots that lose their jobs can't start over at 30K. However many can go from 100K to 60K.

It is time ALPA pilots stop acting like 57,000 independent contractors and start acting like the national union they desperately crave....

Look at this thread... starts out to be a Uncle Tilton issue then turn into pilot v. pilot....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Nope.... in addition, ALPA needs to flatten its economic distribution of contracts.

Should fellow ALPA pilots qualify for gov't assistance while senior pilots are enjoying the best of the best?

Take CAL for example.... 6 months of no health insurance? The disparity between fellow pilots is unreal.

Finally, Starting pay at regionals should be about 30-40K. At the majors 60-70K. This would reduce the need for a national seniority list. Many pilots that lose their jobs can't start over at 30K. However many can go from 100K to 60K.

It is time ALPA pilots stop acting like 57,000 independent contractors and start acting like the national union they desperately crave....

Look at this thread... starts out to be a Uncle Tilton issue then turn into pilot v. pilot....

Holy cr@p batman....Who are you and what did you do with Rez......

 

[CopilotDoug]

Nope.... in addition, ALPA needs to flatten its economic distribution of contracts.

Should fellow ALPA pilots qualify for gov't assistance while senior pilots are enjoying the best of the best?

Take CAL for example.... 6 months of no health insurance? The disparity between fellow pilots is unreal.

Finally, Starting pay at regionals should be about 30-40K. At the majors 60-70K. This would reduce the need for a national seniority list. Many pilots that lose their jobs can't start over at 30K. However many can go from 100K to 60K.

It is time ALPA pilots stop acting like 57,000 independent contractors and start acting like the national union they desperately crave....

Look at this thread... starts out to be a Uncle Tilton issue then turn into pilot v. pilot....

Agreed!

 

[waveflyer]

thank you Rez-- one of the best posts i've read-and i couldn't agree more!
it's time to come together

and eaglesview-- it'll be a lot harder to do without you on board and seeing the big picture. apologies for the insults- but do you see the point? do you see how disenfranchising more than half of the legacy brand pilots has really destroyed the whole thing?