DL/NW Regional Geometry

[Smarta$$]

Champion didn't have a flowthrough and wasn't represented by the NWA MEC were they?

Meaningless. You just want the 175 on your list. History repeating itself. Chosing which airplanes are worthy of the mighty mainline pilot. To good to fly the CR9 or CR2.

You may like the airplane and want the job security and more bidding options and people below you on the list, but there are alot more deserving pilots than the compass newhires of the last 6-18 months.

 

[Superpilot92]

Meaningless. You just want the 175 on your list. History repeating itself. Chosing which airplanes are worthy of the mighty mainline pilot. To good to fly the CR9 or CR2.

You may like the airplane and want the job security and more bidding options and people below you on the list, but there are alot more deserving pilots than the compass newhires of the last 6-18 months.

Look relax i would love to have all of you brought on and stuck down at the bottom, wouldn't that be better for me than just Compass? You asked, "To good to fly a CR9 or CR2?", not so much, you're preaching up the choir about flying a "small rj". I just left a job flying one and would fly another one in a heartbeat if it meant more planes on the mailine ticket. The simple point is that for the senior guys here it makes more sense to bring the E175s on board because they should have been here in the first place instead of making them separate.

 

[MJ42]

Meaningless. You just want the 175 on your list. History repeating itself. Chosing which airplanes are worthy of the mighty mainline pilot. To good to fly the CR9 or CR2. I'd say a majority of us already have flown these type of aircraft.

You may like the airplane and want the job security and more bidding options and people below you on the list, but there are alot more deserving pilots than the compass newhires of the last 6-18 months.

Ah yes, the "entitlement" card. Sorry, but Fins and Superpilot have the right idea.

 

[Smarta$$]

NO, they don't. This is the same old "only certain planes belong at mainline". This is the same thinking that got us in this scope mess in the first place. So you are moving the line in the sand down one airframe. Woopdy Fing do da. By saying that this one specific airframe should have been at the mainline is just reinforcing that the CR9 and CR2 should not have been. You are falling for the same old game.

And now you want to "entitle" a bunch of 6-18 month "regional" newhires with a windfall seniority number. They have done nothing to deserve that "entitlement". Certainly much less than the suffering and service given by the Mesaba, Pinnacle, Comair and ASA pilots. But I guess thier airplanes are not pretty enough for the "entitled" mainline pilots.

 

[Smarta$$]

Point is, you are cherry picking the prettiest airframe, under the arguement that it would be the easiest to integrate. Easy does not make it right.

You know very well that contracting to the cheapest contractor has desimated this profession. Integrating ONE small company, because you like the airplane will do NOTHING to fix the big problem.

 

[DrewBlows]

NO, they don't. This is the same old "only certain planes belong at mainline". This is the same thinking that got us in this scope mess in the first place. So you are moving the line in the sand down one airframe. Woopdy Fing do da. By saying that this one specific airframe should have been at the mainline is just reinforcing that the CR9 and CR2 should not have been. You are falling for the same old game.

And now you want to "entitle" a bunch of 6-18 month "regional" newhires with a windfall seniority number. They have done nothing to deserve that "entitlement". Certainly much less than the suffering and service given by the Mesaba, Pinnacle, Comair and ASA pilots. But I guess thier airplanes are not pretty enough for the "entitled" mainline pilots.

You need to stop this now. You have no idea who the Compass pilots are, where they have came from, or what "dues" they have paid.

You are against an idea that would bring regional airplanes to mainline? You should be calling it a "good start". I don't know what you are so excited for anyway, there is no way Compass or any other regional is going to be absorbed by Delta.

 

[DoinTime]

I don't know what you are so excited for anyway, there is no way Compass or any other regional is going to be absorbed by Delta.

Considering that the Delta pilots don't even want NW pilots at the bottom of their seniority list I'd have to agree that there is NWIH of something like this ever happening.

 

[Superpilot92]

NO, they don't. This is the same old "only certain planes belong at mainline". This is the same thinking that got us in this scope mess in the first place. So you are moving the line in the sand down one airframe. Woopdy Fing do da. By saying that this one specific airframe should have been at the mainline is just reinforcing that the CR9 and CR2 should not have been. You are falling for the same old game.

And now you want to "entitle" a bunch of 6-18 month "regional" newhires with a windfall seniority number. They have done nothing to deserve that "entitlement". Certainly much less than the suffering and service given by the Mesaba, Pinnacle, Comair and ASA pilots. But I guess thier airplanes are not pretty enough for the "entitled" mainline pilots.

Just curious, were you a street CA hired at Pinnacle? If not how long have you been with them? I am trying to understand your entitlement comments. First you accuse me of being "to good to fly a small RJ" and now the Compass guys have a sense of "entitlement"? Thanks for the upcoming clarification.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

You need to stop this now. You have no idea who the Compass pilots are, where they have came from, or what "dues" they have paid.

It's okay Drew, those of us who are there know its refugee camp status.

 

[DrewBlows]

It's okay Drew, those of us who are there know its refugee camp status.

"I kill a communist for fun, but for a green card, I gonna carve him up real nice."



Lol, that's the only quote I can find from this movie that is FI appropriate.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

I am not saying the 50 seaters will completely go away but it will continue to shrink.

No! Get rid of the crjs!

 

[Smarta$$]

Just curious, were you a street CA hired at Pinnacle? If not how long have you been with them? I am trying to understand your entitlement comments. First you accuse me of being "to good to fly a small RJ" and now the Compass guys have a sense of "entitlement"? Thanks for the upcoming clarification.

No, I was not a street captain. The entitlement comments are directed mostly to mj42 (or whatever the guys name is). His comment to me is mixed in on the last page. Because I think the years of service given by the Mesaba, Pinnacle, Comair and ASA pilots should be rewarded with integration LOOOOONG before some compass newhire should, He thinks I have a sense of "entitlement".

You can tell that I disagree with his statements.

But as for supers views, I believe it is cherry picking only an airframe deemed "worthy" AND rewards a new pilot group that has done much LESS to deserve such a windfall.

It is a regional airline. I can prove it, just look at the pay. They just happen to have a nice airplane.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Lol, that's the only quote I can find from this movie that is FI appropriate.

Haha, yeah I'm at a loss for anything else quotable.

 

[Superpilot92]

No, I was not a street captain. The entitlement comments are directed mostly to mj42 (or whatever the guys name is). His comment to me is mixed in on the last page. Because I think the years of service given by the Mesaba, Pinnacle, Comair and ASA pilots should be rewarded with integration LOOOOONG before some compass newhire should, He thinks I have a sense of "entitlement".

You can tell that I disagree with his statements.

But as for supers views, I believe it is cherry picking only an airframe deemed "worthy" AND rewards a new pilot group that has done much LESS to deserve such a windfall.

It is a regional airline. I can prove it, just look at the pay. They just happen to have a nice airplane.

As for "supers" view, you're wrong all aircraft are "worthy" but i dont make the rules. Compass should have never been separate and the senior guys are figuring that out very quickly thus why they "favor" the aircraft. nothing more nothing less

 

[DoinTime]

As for "supers" view, you're wrong all aircraft are "worthy" but i dont make the rules. Compass should have never been separate and the senior guys are figuring that out very quickly thus why they "favor" the aircraft. nothing more nothing less

Should have never been separate? They were specifically negotiated to be separate. The NW pilots got a $30 million bargaining credit for making them separate. The NW MEC publicly proclaimed that they could not possibly hold on to that flying. Now they should have never been separate?

I seem to remember a very similar sentiment when the Avro's went into service. You can't possibly be telling us that the "senior guys" fell for the same gag twice are you?