AA Flight 48 oopsy

[bubbers44]

I just read the report by one of the pilots involved about what really happened. The cabin crew was very much in the loop and the resting pilot was also back there observing and talking to all of the FA's about what happened. The captain walked through the cabin and talked to all of the FA's before the oceanic portion of flight. The hearing with the FAA and all concerned has been done and the crew has been commended on a job well done. Unfortunately one FA decided to write the press with her take on it after the fact. Her over zealous attack on the captain was uncalled for and I hope he sues her for deflamation of character. I have had FA's try to second guess me with situations like that and have given up on trying to get through to them.

 

[say again]

I remember a flight a few months back and after gear retraction-BANG. At first I thought we might have hit a bird or something. It was a low overcast, wintery night out of MSP, so that quickly erased that theory. The PF stated that the plane was flying normal (I concurred as well after I took controls for a test), all indications were normal, I visually inspected the wings (empty leg), and decided it was safe to continue to our destination of MKC. As we were flying we were discussing what that could have been, and came to "conclusion" that it was probably a piece of ice that broke off once the gear was retracted. Low and behold there was a dent just aft of the nosewheel. We made the decision to continue, and I stand by that decision. The crew of AA48 made their decision based on what they knew, and ALL involved did a fine job.

 

[Whine Lover]

Glad it all worked out, this time. And that Management (C-Suckers) was very happy with their "Boys".

"Hero's"....I tell you! Hero's, every one.

I now return to the continuation of my being an arrogant D-Weed.

Thank You.

YKMKR

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

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The Captain Decided To Continue To Cdg Believing The Noise
Might Have Been A Cargo Container Shift.

Was a CG calculation made for this cargo shift?

He Continued The
Flight Knowing That If Anything Recurred They Could Land Before
Entering The Oceanic Portion Of The Flight.

What if something occured AFTER entering the oceanic portion of the flight.

The Facts Of The Matter Are That This
Captain Did Exactly What We Want Our Captains To Do.

Yup... he put revenue before safety.

Land at JFK. Inspect the jet. Get a new crew. Rebook.... lots of options..

 

[bubbers44]

Rez, Your Citabria didn't require a lot of crew resource management. They used it all well and did the logical thing. The cpt used all his resources and concluded continuing made the most sense. I agree with him.

 

[say again]

Yup... he put revenue before safety.

Yeah because Im sure the crew doesn't value their safety!!!

What if this, what if that?? They landed safely, nobody was hurt, and they got to their destination. Great job and use of CRM by the crew.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Problem is... if something did happen then the company and FAA would hang the pilot. Its just that it turned out ok...

Back to my Citabria

 

[AA717driver]

Problem is... if something did happen then the company and FAA would hang the pilot. Its just that it turned out ok...

Back to my Citabria

Of course, nothing could possibly go wrong when landing 100,000 lbs. overweight...

"Was a CG calculation made for this cargo shift?" Next time you shine Prater's shoes, ask him about flying big airplanes. It's a lot different than what you fly apparently.

They flew more than two hours up to Oceanic Airspace monitoring the situation (with NO further indication of a problem)--OR, they could bore holes in the sky over North TX dumping fuel while monitoring the situation.

We weren't there. TC

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Of course, nothing could possibly go wrong when landing 100,000 lbs. overweight...

"Was a CG calculation made for this cargo shift?" Next time you shine Prater's shoes, ask him about flying big airplanes. It's a lot different than what you fly apparently.

They flew more than two hours up to Oceanic Airspace monitoring the situation (with NO further indication of a problem)--OR, they could bore holes in the sky over North TX dumping fuel while monitoring the situation.

We weren't there. TC

Or they could've landed in JFK or BOS. If they did and and saw the panel would they continue?

What is the jet doing now. Did it turn in CDG and fly back on schedule? Is the pack panel on the MEL/CDI?


Just asking? back to my fabric covered taildragger..

 

[Falconjet]

If those guys were ALPA National pilots ole Rez would be singing their praises.

FJ

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

If those guys were ALPA National pilots ole Rez would be singing their praises.

FJ

Not sure the ALPA Nat'l guys know how to still fly...

 

[captain dad]

My wife was flying home from Austin TX today on AA. After pushing back the crew discovered a major hydraulic leak. At least they had the brains to stay on the ground, thank CHRIST!

If this keeps going, I see re-regulation in the not too distant future.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Gus!!!

"the hatch just blew..."

GUS!!!

 

[C-150ETOPS]

Glad it all worked out, this time. And that Management (C-Suckers) was very happy with their "Boys".

"Hero's"....I tell you! Hero's, every one.

I now return to the continuation of my being an arrogant D-Weed.

Thank You.

YKMKR

No, you can continue your being a ignorant, head up your arse, clueless D-Weed.

Your logic just mirrors that of the hysterical, clueless rantings of the elderly cat rancher who blew this non event into a national issue. Poor "Bitzi" had her paranoid mind short-circuit at the irrational thought of her cats, Fluffy, Snowball and Mr Pickles living without her after she was sucked through the mix-valve and out the open pack door. Her blood ran cold at the thought of her kittys getting fed the wrong can of fancy feast out of sequence, which any legacy pilot knows is a true emergency.

Feel free to give the group a pilot report after landing a 767-300 at 390K+ sometime Mr D-Weed.

 

[say again]

Problem is... if something did happen then the company and FAA would hang the pilot. Its just that it turned out ok...

Back to my Citabria

Problem is......nothing!!! The entire crew(mx and all) decided it was safe to continue. Answer this question - Why would 3 experienced pilots, MX personnel, and others involved risk the lives of hundreds of people???

Answer-They wouldn't. It was an honest, correct decision by all involved!!