DALLAPA this is fair ?

[Noserider76]

Uncle BOB could be quite ill, even worse than last summer. From what I've been told, he can't fart with confidence. Now that's scary!

Schwanker

It's possible Uncle BOB may kill himself, leave no will, and his assets will go to his good buddies all over the country. I hope not, I always liked him.

 

[Schwanker]

It's possible Uncle BOB may kill himself, leave no will, and his assets will go to his good buddy from Atlanta. I hope not, I always liked him.

After Moak's demonstration, I'm sure DALPA is salivating at the thought of taking all of NWA's aircraft/routes and let the pilots hang. We've seen your colors.

Schwanker

 

[eaglefly]

I'm not sure what's funnier, eagledoosh claiming to know facts from of all places, ehem, FI.......or the fact that he spent 20 years at eagle!:laugh:

Eaglefly, your village called, they've been looking all over for you!:laugh:

737

Right on schedule like a festering boil you've returned to poison the air.

Pylt, please ask your sister to file down her buck teeth...........it hurt when her head was going back and forth.

This what she looked like..............:0

 

[Noserider76]

After Moak's demonstration, I'm sure DALPA is salivating at the thought of taking all of NWA's aircraft/routes and let the pilots hang. We've seen your colors.

Schwanker

I think not but you sure have been salivating about getting your way or throwing yourself on the floor and having a tantrum from day one. The danger is you put your company in very bad shape and the deal never happens. Then you have to try and recover with a leadership group that has mentally checked out. Your threats get really old. I don't think you've had one constructive thought on this forum. Get over yourself. It's people like you that will take a good place to work and turn it into a nightmare. I'm a mellow person but I've had it with your BS.

 

[Schwanker]

I think not but you sure have been salivating about getting your way or throwing yourself on the floor and having a tantrum from day one. The danger is you put your company in very bad shape and the deal never happens. Then you have to try and recover with a leadership group that has mentally checked out. Your threats get really old. I don't think you've had one constructive thought on this forum. Get over yourself. It's people like you that will take a good place to work and turn it into a nightmare. I'm a mellow person but I've had it with your BS.

Thanks big guy! I wasn't the one suggesting NWA liquidates and you get all the airplanes. That be you. I am suggesting the NWA pilots group will not accept this shove it down your throat deal which will result in a huge DALPA windfall followed by DALPA's effort to build a contract in an effort to exclude NWA pilots and put them at a disadvantage. It will back fire.

You seem to have trouble with facts. Maybe you need to get over yourself.

Schwanker

 

[~~~^~~~]

Schwanker:

The Delta MEC has been clear, your side can force arbitration and there is nothing they can do to stop you. There is no ability to "shove it down your throat."

This can be clearly seen in their offers which have been concessionary to the Delta side. Relative seniority as it falls into the combined fleet results in a 10+ year jump at NWA and a roughly equal fall back at Delta. It is concessionary to Delta's pilots, make no mistake.

Your side has achieved a lot by being the crazier participant. Arbitration will be a limiting factor on your sides ability to intimidate by MAD tactics.

Your side's demand for dynamic seniority helps some of your senior pilots. Then Delta's much higher retirement numbers would result in Delta pilots passing NWA guys as Delta's retirement numbers exceed NWA's after a three year gap. You know what they say about being careful what you ask for... you might get it.

In this case the worst ideas for the NWA pilots have come from the NWA MEC. This is equalled by the concessionary SLI offer made by the Delta MEC to try to achieve peace.

I am very glad that Delta was not able to shove anything they wanted on you and nearly estatic that NWA did not accept the offer. The NWA MEC has saved the Delta MEC from their own errors.

Usually the guy who's pis$ed off all the time is the loser.

In your case, it borders on the bizzare, because the ratios were adjustments brought about by your side's demand for "dynamic seniority" adjustments. Again, I say THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart because I'd been completely hosed if your side had said "yes."

Here's to your side continuing to be crazy, mad & irrational.:beer: If you can be crazy enough to kill the merger a NWA pilot will never buy another beer in my presence.

 

[jetflier]

It's possible Uncle BOB may kill himself, leave no will, and his assets will go to his good buddies all over the country. I hope not, I always liked him.

Us too ! ... but more likely, Uncle Bob may put pressure on Wall Street which will put pressure on uncle Richard who will put pressure on uncle Leo and walla ! "A done deal"

In the meantime, oil is still 120 per barrel and the "synergies" of a billion or more will not be happening. DAL was not in as good financial shape as NWA before the merger announcement and will continue to suffer awaiting the big "synergies" from a combined NWA/DAL.

We really don't want that.

IMHO it's time to face reality, and realize that a greedy windfall will not happen at the expense of the NWA Pilots seniority.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Nevermind - probably best not to aggravate the primate cage while they are enjoying pooping in their hands.

 

[nwaredtail]

Here's to your side continuing to be crazy irrational.:beer: If you can be crazy enough to kill the merger a NWA pilot will never buy another beer in my presence.

[/QUOTE]

Well, aren't we full of ourselves, imagine that. We are your only hope tiger, better start sweet talking a bit.

 

[737 Pylt]

This is so much fun watching the DALALPA F... over the NWALPA boys.

Now you will findout why we now have USAPA as our new UNION.

Hey boomer. Its gonna be even more fun watching the UAL guys bend you east pricks over and having their way with you! USAPA will be the shortest lived union in history!:laugh: :laugh:

737

 

[737 Pylt]

Right on schedule like a festering boil you've returned to poison the air.

Pylt, please ask your sister to file down her buck teeth...........it hurt when her head was going back and forth.

This what she looked like..............:0

Easy big fella, that was you mom, and she's still sore from last night....
Just remember eagledoosh.....80's for 80! You guys rock!

737

 

[~~~^~~~]

Hey boomer. Its gonna be even more fun watching the UAL guys bend you east pricks over and having their way with you! USAPA will be the shortest lived union in history!:laugh: :laugh:

737

What about USAPA Counsel 2 in Detroit?

 

[~~~^~~~]

Well, aren't we full of ourselves, imagine that. We are your only hope tiger, better start sweet talking a bit.

But NWA Red, I've got no idea what turns you on....

 

[Superpilot92]

Nevermind - probably best not to aggravate the primate cage while they are enjoying pooping in their hands.

Fins with all due respect your MEC pushed the NWA MEC and pilots into the corner with all of this. What did you guys expect? You made a deal with MGMT before making a deal with your fellow ALPA brothers. Your MEC and mgmt knew what that would cause with our MEC. Our Guys would have Never made a deal with mgmt leaving you to fend for yourself.

again i hope this gets figured out and cooler heads prevail but nothing ever should have been done to split the pilot groups especially right at the beginning.

 

[jetflier]

It worked for another airline which operates permitted flying under Delta's scope, ASA. Of course they got spun off and replaced by eight other airlines during negotiations, but hey, their plan worked!
The deal hasn't happened yet, unless I missed the DOJ announcement.

Of course it might just backfire, the merger get called off, Delta get to keep it's junior 767ER slots and 777's and NWA get stuck with the mess you and BOB created. After all, that worked out so well for US Air going into arbitration.

We are not trying to get your coveted 777 and 767 slots, maybe that's a Freudian slip on your part.
As far as Bob goes, if you are refering to last summer, NWA recorded one of it's most profitable years in business.
And USAIR, well that deal put the kabosh on America Wests seniority grab. ( I think you missed that part)

Then the Delta managers would get to execute the stand alone plan they like better anyway and NWA can figure out how to turn the trends around on flying whales out of shrinking O&D markets to hubs the 777-200LR can fly flight right over. At least the RJ's are easy airplanes to learn coming off the -9.

I wish that DAL would take their stand alone plan and ride off into the sunset with it.
Where did you get the intel that NWA needs to turn around the trends on whales flying out of shrinking O&D markets? Clearly you are in the know, so pull up NWA 747 loads then report back here. As far as the 777 overflying (Tokyo Narita maybe?) be our guest. We've been flying out of our hub in Narita since WW2 carrying local Japanese traffic, they like us

As far as coming off the DC9, it might happen, I would not have a problem checking out in a new type of aircraft, check my avitar profile .

Please explain your "greedy windfall" comment, with specifics. I'll turn off the air in the hotel room so I can hear the crickets.

I can't explain the greedy windfall comment, you need to ask your MEC.

(Leave the airconditioning off in your hotel room so you can tell how your $iht stinks. (I got the sincere impression that you thought that maybe it didn't!)