Wacky new take-off procedure at Pinnacle

[siucavflight]

It takes at least 20 seconds to get the FD to do what you want!

Really? You may want to go back to the training center and brush up a little if this is the case.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

So some jacka$$ takes off with ice on the airplane and they have to change the FD procedure? How about don't take off with ice on the airplane???

Is there a connection with the every 5000' the slight roll with ap off?

 

[trip]

Really? You may want to go back to the training center and brush up a little if this is the case.

If you know of a faster way to set 10 deg. on the taxi out please share?

 

[siucavflight]

If you know of a faster way to set 10 deg. on the taxi out please share?

Just think it, and so it shall be.

 

[viper548]

So some jacka$$ takes off with ice on the airplane and they have to change the FD procedure? How about don't take off with ice on the airplane???

One guy $hits himself, now we all have to wear diapers

 

[lowlycfi]

By the way were not doing this because of some MESA pilot cant rotate right are we?

This AD has nothing to do with low time F/Os here in the U.S. It came from a few non-us airlines that had a problem with pilots over rotating with ice on the wings and stalling the airplane.

Ok so now I'm confused. Is this Mesa's fault or not?

 

[siucavflight]

Yes, it is always Mesas fault.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Typical action from the FAA: Ready!!! SHOOT!!!! Aim! This is gay.

Trust me...you don't know what "gay" is!

Watch what you say dearie!

 

[Morning Wood]

So some jacka$$ takes off with ice on the airplane and they have to change the FD procedure? How about don't take off with ice on the airplane???

How about using the wing anti- ice too.

 

[Top Gum]

Someone asked if the 10 degrees is a limit. No, it’s the initial target.

Was there any training on this in the sim at your company?

I really don’t understand how these companies and the FAA can accept the liability associated with this without some training. I know it’s no big deal to takeoff without the FD most of us do it anyway. My point is without some documented training on this procedure all it’s going to take is for someone to loose an eng at V1 and screw it all up and the lawyers are going to have a paycheck to retire on.