Furoughs at Midwest

[b82rez]

I would, however, love to hear Baghdad Carol explain how this is better than what AirTran offered. Let her earn that $1 Mil. bonus.

Carol took her money and ran.

 

[PCL_128]

Sorry to hear it guys. I really wish we could have merged last year. I think all of us would be in a stronger position today.

 

[FlyWolf]

Flywolf -- are they furloughing FAs too? I know someone there.

Good luck -- I have had the pleasure of a Midwest ride once, all bathed in cookie odor and snuggled up in a big, comfy leather recliner. Nice people, nice product.

Thanks Bavarian for the kind words

No it doesn't include any FA at this time.

 

[CitationLover]

going to the meeting tomorrow citation

was there today. good to see the reaction to the furloughs and was proud of those that actually showed up! now we need to get the senior ones "who gobble up" OT to understand.

 

[CitationLover]

Flywolf -- are they furloughing FAs too? I know someone there.

Good luck -- I have had the pleasure of a Midwest ride once, all bathed in cookie odor and snuggled up in a big, comfy leather recliner. Nice people, nice product.

Believe it or not, there are FEWER FA's than pilots at Midwest right now. They have had a ton of FA's leave in the last few months and with classes cancelled, they haven't been replacing them.

 

[PCL_128]

CL, are you getting furloughed?

 

[fam62c]

That's a bummer guys, sorry to hear it. Skyway gone, Midwest laying off and Skywest continues to fly. It doesn't look like the "stand-alone" plan is working out too well afterall. I'm sure this will be spun as a "difficul but necessary decision caused by unfavorable economic conditions beyond our control."

What they need to do is to start cutting the administration and infrastructure down to size. Seems like an awful lot of people and buidings to support a small (and getting smaller) airline. I'm afraid that this whole industry is about to crash hard.

 

[eightdriver]

10 furloughs on May 15th, 10 more furloughs on June 15, and then 15 more on July 1st. No estimate on how long was given... Thats the lastest from MKE. 8

 

[CitationLover]

CL, are you getting furloughed?

yes, first wave as i was randomly determined to be junior in my class.

 

[PCL_128]

Got any backup plans while you wait for recall? Hope everything works out for you.

 

[CitationLover]

Got any backup plans while you wait for recall? Hope everything works out for you.

yes. a former career that i can do some contract work on. with the delta information today, our futures shall become a little bit clearer in the coming months.

and thank you for the support.

 

[Thunderchief]

Good luck to all of you, sorry to hear of furloughs... There are some d@mn fine people at YX and I hope the furlough is relatively short. I too have been thru it and truely feel your pain. Hopefully DL/NWA will absorb what is left of MIDEX...

I get so PISSED when I think of all the retarded decisions TH and gang have made YEAR AFTER YEAR. Yet he continues to rule, unf~kin believable.

TC

 

[OMNIDC10FO]

Omni Air is hiring like mad to try and get to 70 dc-10 crews. Hiring for the 757 as well, but the 10 is more furlough-proof. Good luck to all the Midwest Folks!

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

My furlough date is June 15th. Woo Hoo 3 days at second year pay!

 

[eightdriver]

yes. a former career that i can do some contract work on. with the delta information today, our futures shall become a little bit clearer in the coming months.

and thank you for the support.

What Delta information??? Enlighten me. I couldn't be at the meeting... home with a broken leg. 8

 

[gt1900]

Not trying to stir the pot... Really I'm not... But do you guys think that now the AAI merger would have been a better bet?? I know CL didn't want it... But whats the rumors of what may happen to MEH?? I'm now glad the merger didn't happen... AAI is going to need all the cash we can get... But it just seems the MEH guys keep getting screwed every day... I hate to hear about furloughs, MEH, AAI or anywhere... I really hope you guys make it througth the tuff times...

 

[jetflier]

I am so very sorry to hear about the furloughs, we just brought a jumpseater with us to MKE a few days ago. We were expressing our optimisim about Midwest being part of NWA and that it may very well turn out to be a good deal. I am still hoping that comes true and we all form the new DAL.
Being an ex Pan Am, I have no lost love for DAL, but if we all pull in the same direction,...well you know...

 

[njcapt]

yes. a former career that i can do some contract work on. with the delta information today, our futures shall become a little bit clearer in the coming months.

and thank you for the support.

I haven't been a big fan of your attitude in the past, but I am truly sorry things have worked out the way they have for you and your fellow Midwest furloughees. You do not deserve this. The Midwest pilots have always been a class act and have been done a disservice by the aholes you work for.

It normally takes a while for an airline pilot to find his or her way in the industry, especially the way things are these days. Maintain the relationships you have accumulated while working for Midwest as they will serve you well in the future, no matter what you end up doing in the industry.

Good luck.

 

[FlyWolf]

I just wanted to thank everyone for their support specially the Airtran guys, a true class act, I really wish we combined the two airlines and became a strong airline with strong future and best of all without TH and his cronies.

I wonder how much is his bonus for saving $$$ by furloughing 35 pilots.

I am truly pissed that we are loosing these fine guys.

 

[FlyWolf]

Citation, I am sorry about all the bad news, I was in the meeting today and I can promise that I will make sure that the furlough assessment will PASS in the next meeting.

 

[Erndogg]

Maybe, unless they start parking 80's, which will shuffle the route network like playing 52 card pickup. Everything west would stop in MCI. Less seats, one more cycle, more fuel burned. If the 717 had more than 'nubs' for legs, I think things would be different. Good thing they always make the right fleet choices. Makes times like these super-easy.

Do you know how many 717's are being parked/returned???

 

[CitationLover]

Not trying to stir the pot... Really I'm not... But do you guys think that now the AAI merger would have been a better bet?? I know CL didn't want it... But whats the rumors of what may happen to MEH?? I'm now glad the merger didn't happen... AAI is going to need all the cash we can get... But it just seems the MEH guys keep getting screwed every day... I hate to hear about furloughs, MEH, AAI or anywhere... I really hope you guys make it througth the tuff times...

I am man enough to admit Timmy fooled me, but with oil where it is now we're simply treading water waiting. All smaller carriers are in this boat: Spirit, Frontier, etc.

I simply like the product we offer and will be sad to see it go goodbye soon. We are truly a unique airline. I still feel for our FA's whose responsibilities will increase 13% this summer without an extra nickel.

 

[CitationLover]

Do you know how many 717's are being parked/returned???

In their infinite wisdom they think it is cheaper to let 2 717's stand idle and keep making lease payments than it is to fly them.

Oil $110+/bbl economics I guess. With Frontier's Ch. 11, the government is going to need to get involved. A lot of job's are being lost in an election year. Politicians don't like this. If Bear Stearns gets bailed out, why not the airlines?

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

If Bear Stearns gets bailed out, why not the airlines?

Because it's about the investors, not the employees.

This administration DOES NOT CARE about you.

 

[CitationLover]

Because it's about the investors, not the employees.

This administration DOES NOT CARE about you.

No, the investors got $2/share (now $10) when it was at $30. It was about the "effect on the economy" was the spin from the Fed.

I absolutely agree this administration doesn't care. McCain would be even worse with his track record against airlines.

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

No, the investors got $2/share (now $10) when it was at $30. It was about the "effect on the economy" was the spin from the Fed.

I know what the "spin" was. The spin also has Paulson on TV talking about our "strong dollar policy". WTF????????

I absolutely agree this administration doesn't care. McCain would be even worse with his track record against airlines.

Yet you still have a jillion idiot airline pilots who will vote for him.

 

[FIREMAN]

I absolutely agree this administration doesn't care. McCain would be even worse with his track record against airlines.[/quote]

Do not fool yourself NO party cares about you. It is all about their power, and what gets their party more votes.

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

....NO party cares about you......

True, but certain ones have far more disdain for us "little people" than others.

 

[CitationLover]

Do not fool yourself NO party cares about you. It is all about their power, and what gets their party more votes.

I wholeheartedly agree. When going into the booth in November the democrat in this case is simply the lesser of two evils.

 

[Jetjockey]

Citation, I am sorry about all the bad news, I was in the meeting today and I can promise that I will make sure that the furlough assessment will PASS in the next meeting.

I like that optimism, but the vote never came close to passing the two times I was furloughed. Maybe the senior guys will think of more than just themselves this time around.