Pinnacle's Delta Numbers!!!!

[outtahere]

For yesterday, 4/9 they had an 85% Completion factor. Of that 85% they still only ran 94% of those on time. YIKES!! For the month so far they are sitting at a completion factor of 93% with 61% on time. I guess we know who the next odd man out for DCA is! Maybe now we will get those 900's at ASA.

 

[Windsor]

Its not going to get any better

 

[siucavflight]

Well thats not good.

 

[V-1]

One day does not a trend make.

 

[outtahere]

No, but month to date does!

 

[pilotbrain]

I don't think they would go to ASA...they would go to Skywest.

 

[outtahere]

Wanna bet?

 

[pilotbrain]

A matter of fact, the 16 Atlanta based 900s were to go to Skywest...but Pinnacle ended up with em. A lot of Skywest pilots were disappointed.

 

[Medeco]

Its one thing to be giddy about the Mesa deal, but to gloat about Pinnacle is a bit different.

These guys flying the aircraft may deserve some harrasment, but isnt the pilot group as a whole pretty much standing up to management in a contract battle?

Much like ASA did until last year.

I'm sure youll correct me if im wrong.

Medeco

 

[BoilerUP]

Its one thing to be giddy about the Mesa deal, but to gloat about Pinnacle is a bit different.

These guys flying the aircraft may deserve some harrasment, but isnt the pilot group as a whole pretty much standing up to management in a contract battle?

Much like ASA did until last year.

I'm sure youll correct me if im wrong.

Medeco

You're not wrong...

 

[outtahere]

Yes this is true, however, the last thing any of the DCI carriers needed was another bottom dwelling regional to come along and throw off the average salary. While I don't wish ill will to the pinnacle group, if they lose the delta flying due to performance and ASA picks up the slack, I won't shed a tear. The reason Pinnacle got the flying in the first place was due to a severe subpar contract.

 

[BoilerUP]

The reason Pinnacle got the flying in the first place was due to a severe subpar contract.

...that they are fighting tooth and nail to remedy...

 

[outtahere]

And good for them, and I do support the efforts of everyone over there. This just happens to be one of those times in the industry that the only growth that will come is at the expense of someone else. It sucks, but it is what it is.

 

[Flyprdu]

9E owns those 900s, it was part of the deal. IF DAL pulls the plug, the boys on Nonconnah will try to sell service to someone else. Painters be ready.

 

[DoinTime]

Yes this is true, however, the last thing any of the DCI carriers needed was another bottom dwelling regional to come along and throw off the average salary. While I don't wish ill will to the pinnacle group, if they lose the delta flying due to performance and ASA picks up the slack, I won't shed a tear. The reason Pinnacle got the flying in the first place was due to a severe subpar contract.

It was only a few months ago that ASA payscales were below PCL's and you have the stones to hold yourself up on a pedestal? We have been working under this horse******************** contract for almost 9 years now. The reason we don't have new one is because we will not sell out. Once GW's cronies get out of the White House we will get the leverage we need to secure the contract we deserve.

 

[wms]

We had many carrots and ultimatums put before us and didn't sell out, and we didn't wait until GW was out of the white house.

 

[outtahere]

It was only a few months ago that ASA payscales were below PCL's and you have the stones to hold yourself up on a pedestal? We have been working under this horse******************** contract for almost 9 years now. The reason we don't have new one is because we will not sell out. Once GW's cronies get out of the White House we will get the leverage we need to secure the contract we deserve.

When was this? Pinnalce rates nor contract provisions were never better than ASA's, even under the old contract. Like I said, no ill will, but it is time to shed some DCI lift providers, and pinnacle needs to go!

 

[wms]

It's a very competitive business right now. DAL under the Grinch was about segment cost at the cost of performance. Now with contracts settled and costs for the most part fixed it's all performance. CF, D-0 and A-14 is what it's all about.

 

[i fly boxes]

NEWS FLASH TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!
First off, I know pinnacle sucks sometimes, but hear me out. When you have 6 airplanes, and 2 go down for maintenace in one day, your completion factor, on time performance are going to suck really bad. When you only have 6 airplanes, any bit of weather is going to screw everything up. If I cancel 3 flights out of 10 completion factor is 70%. If I cancel 3 flights out of 100, its 97%. We are in an intense labor/management fight right now, ASA has sucked for the last 4 years, and now suddenly everything is ok? By the way, when our contract was signed back in 1999, it wasn't the best, but it was above average at the time.

 

[NWA]

Delta doesn't care about Pinnacles numbers right now, good lord they only have 5 or 6 aircraft. Wait until they get all 16 and by then their numbers will be better than ASA's. I regret walking with you guys in Atlanta, you're all a bunch of Riddle tool bags!