Pinnacle's Delta Numbers!!!!

[outtahere]

Yes this is true, however, the last thing any of the DCI carriers needed was another bottom dwelling regional to come along and throw off the average salary. While I don't wish ill will to the pinnacle group, if they lose the delta flying due to performance and ASA picks up the slack, I won't shed a tear. The reason Pinnacle got the flying in the first place was due to a severe subpar contract.

 

[BoilerUP]

The reason Pinnacle got the flying in the first place was due to a severe subpar contract.

...that they are fighting tooth and nail to remedy...

 

[outtahere]

And good for them, and I do support the efforts of everyone over there. This just happens to be one of those times in the industry that the only growth that will come is at the expense of someone else. It sucks, but it is what it is.

 

[Flyprdu]

9E owns those 900s, it was part of the deal. IF DAL pulls the plug, the boys on Nonconnah will try to sell service to someone else. Painters be ready.

 

[DoinTime]

Yes this is true, however, the last thing any of the DCI carriers needed was another bottom dwelling regional to come along and throw off the average salary. While I don't wish ill will to the pinnacle group, if they lose the delta flying due to performance and ASA picks up the slack, I won't shed a tear. The reason Pinnacle got the flying in the first place was due to a severe subpar contract.

It was only a few months ago that ASA payscales were below PCL's and you have the stones to hold yourself up on a pedestal? We have been working under this horse******************** contract for almost 9 years now. The reason we don't have new one is because we will not sell out. Once GW's cronies get out of the White House we will get the leverage we need to secure the contract we deserve.

 

[wms]

We had many carrots and ultimatums put before us and didn't sell out, and we didn't wait until GW was out of the white house.

 

[outtahere]

It was only a few months ago that ASA payscales were below PCL's and you have the stones to hold yourself up on a pedestal? We have been working under this horse******************** contract for almost 9 years now. The reason we don't have new one is because we will not sell out. Once GW's cronies get out of the White House we will get the leverage we need to secure the contract we deserve.

When was this? Pinnalce rates nor contract provisions were never better than ASA's, even under the old contract. Like I said, no ill will, but it is time to shed some DCI lift providers, and pinnacle needs to go!

 

[wms]

It's a very competitive business right now. DAL under the Grinch was about segment cost at the cost of performance. Now with contracts settled and costs for the most part fixed it's all performance. CF, D-0 and A-14 is what it's all about.

 

[i fly boxes]

NEWS FLASH TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!
First off, I know pinnacle sucks sometimes, but hear me out. When you have 6 airplanes, and 2 go down for maintenace in one day, your completion factor, on time performance are going to suck really bad. When you only have 6 airplanes, any bit of weather is going to screw everything up. If I cancel 3 flights out of 10 completion factor is 70%. If I cancel 3 flights out of 100, its 97%. We are in an intense labor/management fight right now, ASA has sucked for the last 4 years, and now suddenly everything is ok? By the way, when our contract was signed back in 1999, it wasn't the best, but it was above average at the time.

 

[NWA]

Delta doesn't care about Pinnacles numbers right now, good lord they only have 5 or 6 aircraft. Wait until they get all 16 and by then their numbers will be better than ASA's. I regret walking with you guys in Atlanta, you're all a bunch of Riddle tool bags!