Mesa

[johndog]

I totally agree. You are so correct. We should never have tolerated Mesa pilots in the jumpseat!!

Ok. What will get us in your jumpseat?

I look forword to bloodying your nose there Rush so lets comense! I don't have to show until 3:30. Putting idiots in there place is sort of hoby.

 

[pdub20s]

As far as winter performance at JFK is concerned...if you don't think you can make the required numbers, you shouldn't sign the contract. We all deal with winter ops...and the majority aren't losing contracts.

Well who is in JFK?? hmmm.. Comair and F8... Hmmm

 

[johndog]

You typing yet? I'm waiting.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Well who is in JFK?? hmmm.. Comair and F8... Hmmm

I'm just pointing out winter ops are a PITA for all of us and can't really be used as an excuse for all of our contract statistic requirements.

I referenced JFK because that's what Freedom signed on to fly. Everyone knows JFK has issues...so if you sign on to fly into JFK, you better be damn sure you can cover the requirements.

 

[eaglefly]

I honestly think Mesa will be more profitable if they shrink. Mesa has outgrown its capabilities. With less attrition (nobody hiring) and less airframes, they might actually be able to finally staff the airline.

Even if Mesa sold off assets, who the hell would want to buy any of its 50 seaters? The greatest value to Mesa was the DCI flying (mostly gone) and its 900 flying.

No airline has ever shrunk to profitability.

 

[Soverytired]

Yea and see what happens when ALPA comes down on your a$$ for denying a fellow ALPAer a JS. What goes around comes around buddy

I'd say relax and don't worry about it. The number of pilots walking around with HUGE chips on their shoulders just salivating over the thought of denying a jumpseat to a pilot from "Carrier X" or "non-scab list Y" are so small they may as well not even exist.

 

[eaglefly]

You guys saying that MESA is going out of business and wishing ill on the pilot group are nothing but ******************************s. Those saying the ERJ lost its contract with DL are also ******************************s. The schedules for next bid are already being built...and guess what?? The Freedom ERJ is still flying for em. DL does not have a pot to piss in in court. DL is trying to blame our completion factor % based on CXs ordered by Delta and WINTER performance in JFK. Like I said, DL does not have a pot to piss in. I will give JO this, he is a smart guy and his Ego wont let him fail.


Nice try Delta.

This clown is DEFINATELY drinking J.O.'s piss.

 

[eaglefly]

Yea and see what happens when ALPA comes down on your a$$ for denying a fellow ALPAer a JS. What goes around comes around buddy

ALPA will not and CANNOT say jack...........

Sorry Kid.

 

[eaglefly]

Ok. What will get us in your jumpseat?

I look forword to bloodying your nose there Rush so lets comense! I don't have to show until 3:30. Putting idiots in there place is sort of hoby.

LOL !!!!!!!!!

Another violent Mesa pilot.

 

[eaglefly]

You guys are hilarious!

MESA will cease ops sooner than we think. The board knows that the Aloha lawsuit will be the last straw and will shut down faster than expected, to preserve their available cash.
I thought they would last a year, now I think it is only a matter of months.

Leave now, before ALPA sugar coats another debacle.
(not ALPA bashing, but how many ALPA carriers went TU in the last week?)

I'm hoping Hawiian gets there's too. Perhaps they could go after J.O.'s personal assets or the money he's surely skimming now before the collapse.

 

[WalterSobchak]

I'd say relax and don't worry about it. The number of pilots walking around with HUGE chips on their shoulders just salivating over the thought of denying a jumpseat to a pilot from "Carrier X" or "non-scab list Y" are so small they may as well not even exist.

But, if they could hide behind a keyboard when making the denial instead of having to look the guy in the eye...they'd be all over it.

 

[Abernathy]

Ok. What will get us in your jumpseat?

I look forword to bloodying your nose there Rush so lets comense! I don't have to show until 3:30. Putting idiots in there place is sort of hoby.

"Comense"? Seriously?

 

[johndog]

LOL !!!!!!!!!

Another violent Mesa pilot.

I new someone would misinterpret what I wrote. I'm talking about a debate. Not violence. You know my facts against his opinion sort of thing via this web board, not the parking lot.

I'm incredibly tired of the ignorance from some pilots. I neither signed that last contract nor voted for it. I was here shortly after it was signed. I went to MAPD. Of which I'm proud of, was an excellent school- I'm sure still is. I had a chance to go to the original Freedum. I did not. I waited in Farmington for a good long while until the contract was settled and Mesa was hiring. Paying my student loans and washing anybodies airplane who would let me fly with them. Some did not make this choice. Those people will be on that list forever. That is their punishment. It is those pilots who deserve your scorn. And to the degree that you don't make this distinction the list becomes valueless. The people who are responsible are never held liable. We have one CAPT on the ERJ. ALL OTHERS on the ERJ are not A listers. Said CPT is not JFK based.

What really pisses me off though since I was put on the Freedum Cert is the treatment I get from other pilots. As if Freedum A was alive and well. When in fact I, and many others, stayed away from Freedum. Yet we are painted with the same brush. In addition we got raped on our last contract to win back scope. You have no idea what it is like to suffer under JO. We have at times stopped his BS other times not. My opinion not enough. Flying 737 s for nothing etc...We also suffer with ambiguous language in our contract that has been terribly exploited. We were awarded a decision that would have stopped line holders being arbitrarily pulled from there flying. But of course that is contested.

I have never understood that hatred some feel for Mesa pilots. Because were perceived as letting JO do what ever he wants. A scape goat you use to blame your own negotiating failures. Human nature. All three, I don't know. I'd like to see what your pilot group could do against him.

That being said it will not be the same scenario during these negotiations. People who quite have. Some are with family and mortgage and can't just leave for any where. Others have just been upgraded and would be foolish to leave before there thousand. New hires know what there getting into usually. I challenge you haters to rethink your resentment and place it where it belongs. Pointed at JO and his A list enablers.

 

[10nCLR]

As much as it pains me to defend Freedumb...



I swear...if we were to have a nuclear war tonight with the Russians...the only things that would survive would be cockroaches, Keith Richards, and Mesa Air Group.

and the Kool-Aid Man!!!!!!

Ooh! YEAAH!

 

[rod farva]

and the Kool-Aid Man!!!!!!

Ooh! YEAAH!

Holy crap. That avatar is hilarious.