All this bad news, on top of age 65.

[Smarta$$]

When you consider all the recent events, age 65 REALLY screwed us BAD. BAD. BAD.

 

[captainv]

you don't think Al Queda was worse?

 

[atlcrashpad]

I guess in this industry Seniority really is everything....... sux if ur on duh bottom....... bouyyyyyyyy....

 

[IamGumbyDammit]

BAD BAD BAD is having yer 60 Bday the day before this this got signed

 

[NoahWerka]

I quit last year at 59 1/2, after the rule was passed. Screw 'em. Got tired of being away from home. Over the last 20 years I spent more nights in a hotel or crash pad than I did at home. It sure is good get up every morning when I want to, go and do what I want to, and go to bed when I want to. And, I ain't near as tired as I used to be, even on more alcohol and less sleep.
:beer:

 

[PCL_128]

you don't think Al Queda was worse?

The effects of 9/11 are well behind us at this point. Face facts: age 65 is screwing over a lot of people at a lot of majors right now, not to mention the regional guys that can't move up.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Yup, age 65 put a major hurting on a lot of people. Once again, pilots eat there young...

A lot of people have gotten hurt in this industry in the past 8 years, not the least of which were pilots in the last 5 years of their careers looking at retirements. Had we not seen the massive A and B plan cuts that came with the bankruptcies, age 65 would still be a fantasy held by masochistic workaholics.

I think the next biggest "clique" of pilots impacted would be the 30-40 year old pilots. Many of us (I am one) were awaiting that dreamed of cushy legacy job on 9/10/01. In the following years, the industry remained essentially stagnent while our lived did the exact opposite. We gained families and mortgages and all of the baggage associated with having a "life." When the next spat of hiring ensued, many were and are unable to make the jump... It is a lot more difficult to take the pay cut when you have baggage than it would have been in your late twenties with fewer responsibilities.

That is the choice I (and a lot of others) are faced with now. Put your family through hell or figure out what life will look like with substantially less lifetime earnings. Not what any of us signed up for, I think.

 

[DoinTime]

you don't think Al Queda was worse?

Actually, the Bush administration has been the most detrimental factor in piloting careers over the past eight years.

 

[gator_hater]

Actually, the Bush administration has been the most detrimental factor in piloting careers over the past eight years.

That's right because a good economy with many people spending money on travel is bad for pilots. Whereas higher taxes and less travel from the Dems is good. KISS

 

[Jetjockey]

That's right because a good economy with many people spending money on travel is bad for pilots. Whereas higher taxes and less travel from the Dems is good. KISS

Yeah, Like when Clinton raised taxes, and the economy exploded with growth.

Bush lowers taxes, starts a ill advised war, and look at the economy now.

 

[gator_hater]

Our current economic situation is not the same. First of all Clinton's unemployment during the "great" years was >6%, current "crappy" economy is 5.1%. Clinton's taxes coincided with a techno boom that eventually imploded on speculation similar to today's housing. If Bush's tax cuts continue history will likely prove that Clinton's recession was deeper and longer. Just because CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and the internet say that the economy is bad does not make it true.

 

[Smacktard]

Our current economic situation is not the same. First of all Clinton's unemployment during the "great" years was >6%, current "crappy" economy is 5.1%. Clinton's taxes coincided with a techno boom that eventually imploded on speculation similar to today's housing. If Bush's tax cuts continue history will likely prove that Clinton's recession was deeper and longer. Just because CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and the internet say that the economy is bad does not make it true.

Well Clinton has to claim some credit for the techno boom, afterall, Gore did invent the internet...

 

[PCL_128]

First of all Clinton's unemployment during the "great" years was >6%

Umm, unemployment got down to 4.2% under Clinton. Not sure where you're getting your numbers from.

 

[CoolSidePillow]

Clinton was almost impeached for a skull session in the oval orafice.

Bush bent over the entire country for a prison shower.

He also put us in debt for the next generation started wars to find criminals. Oh yeah, helped get the pipeline contract out of the Caspian Sea for all of his and daddy's buddies. Oil at over $100 a barrel and historic increases in the shortest amount of time. The entire Bush regime is eyeball deep in oil but I am sure that is just a coincidence.

Mcain is a zillion years old and Hillary is, well a chick. We are all doomed.

 

[captainv]

The effects of 9/11 are well behind us at this point. Face facts: age 65 is screwing over a lot of people at a lot of majors right now, not to mention the regional guys that can't move up.

Age 65 will delay career progression for 5 years. couldn't the exact same thing occur via a merger, bankruptcy, recession? I would argue 9/11 and its effect on the oil markets have had a much longer/more wide-ranging effect on this industry than age 65. Besides, age 65 just passed, what, a few months ago?